Do y'all think we have a group that can challenge BTS or BP among 4th gen???

  • 4th gen pretty much took off this year with all these new ggs doing well on kcharts and all these bgs selling millions but BTS and BP are still the most relevant kpop groups gaining the most fans, even when both groups are on a hiatus.

    Is anyone going to challenge their dominance this year?

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  • I doubt it other groups can be trendy but not as influential as them

  • no, at least for now. bts and blackpink are one of a kind groups. we still don't know what the future holds but from what we've seen so far i highly doubt someone else will achieve their level of popularity and relevancy, especially worldwide

  • they are both going to release albums this year so no, not in a global scale at least.

  • Blackpink hasn't achieved anything that huge which can't be surpassed. Bts tho, nobody is challenging them anytime soon

  • BP, maybe Aespa in the future?

    BTS, none. Have a 3 day sold out Wembley Stadium concert first, then we talk.

  • I don't think people here realize just how far ahead BP is compared to other girl groups globally lol...no one has touched even D4's global Spotify ranking and we're coming up on 4 years

  • Matching and/or surpassing BP is entirely possible.


    BTS is harder nut to crack because they are constantly, constantly setting new benchmarks and standards. By the time another group has a chance of reaching one goal BTS will be five steps ahead already.

  • The way some people are undermining Blackpink's success on here.


    Please tell me when there is a 4th gen kpop gg that has alteast 1 mv with a billion views.

  • BP are miles ahead the second place girl group on spotify & youtube with just a handful songs and we have people here saying they haven't achieved anything huge.


    Other ggs can't even top stuff they did in their first 2 years like charting in canada & the u.s. They also did that without ever going there or western label which is the common excuse certain people use for their favs being irrelevant in the west

  • I think the biggest issue other groups face when it comes to following in BTS's and BP's footsteps is that they're going to have to make it on their own. Just as BTS and BP did. It's the groups that became popular not Kpop as a genre. Don't get me wrong, kpop certainly has more fans than it did before these two groups blew up in the west but at the end of the day it's still pretty niche compared to "regular" pop music and not something a lot of people check out unless it's already charting.

  • BP are miles ahead the second place girl group on spotify & youtube with just a handful songs and we have people here saying they haven't achieved anything huge.


    Other ggs can't even top stuff they did in their first 2 years like charting in canada & the u.s. They also did that without ever going there or western label which is the common excuse certain people use for their favs being irrelevant in the west

    I guarantee you the only people here undermining BP are armys, not even stans of 4th gen ggs. It happens every time someone on anons puts Blackpink together with their boys in a thread. We know BP are not on BTS' level lmao, but if it were that easy to match their impact globally you would think some other gg would have done it already, no? Or even come close? It's not like the opportunity is not there with the way YG pretends BP are disbanded more often than not

  • The people ₐᵣₘᵧ undermining bp here :eyes: Maybe this hiatus made you forget how far they are in the game.



    As for any 4th gen group matching bts? No, they are a once in a generation phenomenon. Bp? No. Though more likely than bts. I don’t think any 4th gen group can come close to their impact.

  • Not in girl groups. I think if and when that happens it will catch straight away and we'll all know it, no debate needed. Blackpink were on a sharp ascendancy from debut. The kpop community is so comfortable with calling them no-talent instagram models they forget that. They pretend Blackpink experienced a temporary bubble of popularity with Ddu-du that will pop any second now.


    As someone who was there when Blackpink debuted, Aespa have nothing on that phenomenon. Nor do Ive or Kep1er. A group will come along and take over, and when they do it may be Spice Girls level because there is such a huge audience available to new groups now. Most likely candidates coming up are the HYBE group or the YG group, but they could turn out to be a TXT and an Ikon...


    *The exception to everything I just said is if one of any of the current girl groups comes out with some amazing pop song that unexpectedly becomes the new Gangnam Style or the new That's What Makes You Beautiful, anything instantly iconic that catapults them into household name status.

  • BP don't produce content enough to secure a total domination. There could definitely be other acts that could surpass them, but then BP could also easily gain their footing back. But again, because they do not produce music consistently it's always going to be a game of hopscotch I think

  • Aespa is certainly capable of it

    BTS: Probably not

    Aespa (or any 4th gen gg) will not reach the heights of bp internationally and anyone who thinks they will is foolish.


    You guys are underestimating them, every year a 4th gen gg blows up and people thinking they gonna end bp. But every time bp comeback and make numbers no gg has ever seen, then everyone shuts up. Rinse n repeat.


    When we learn :teeheek:

  • yes if they got sabotaged by their own company. Naturally, any group reaching their renewal year will pushed aside to make a new way for the new group even by doing dirty job, like YG is known company to do this. Remember on how 2ne1 was treated?


    One top group is removed/declined by nature/force (like i stated above), any upcoming groups will take their place. It's the life cycle.

  • Aespa is certainly capable of it

    BTS: Probably not

    Aespa are capable of selling a huge amount albums and charting well in Korea and China

    Whether they are capable of replicating or surpassing BP's streaming numbers, touring capacity, western charting, and star-power (who, exactly, in Aespa do you think will ever be on Lisa's level globally?) is another thing entirely


    BP were far ahead of the game in 2017 when they charted on Bubbling Under less than one year into their career. Like someone in this thread already mentioned, when/if we finally have another girl group who can reach BP's level globally, we will know as soon as they debut.

  • Aespa (or any 4th gen gg) will not reach the heights of bp internationally and anyone who thinks they will is foolish.


    You guys are underestimating them, every year a 4th gen gg blows up and people thinking they gonna end bp. But every time bp comeback and make numbers no gg has ever seen, then everyone shuts up. Rinse n repeat.


    When we learn :teeheek:

    That's only because BP haven't been active, Aespa will still beat them imao

  • Aespa (or any 4th gen gg) will not reach the heights of bp internationally and anyone who thinks they will is foolish.


    You guys are underestimating them, every year a 4th gen gg blows up and people thinking they gonna end bp. But every time bp comeback and make numbers no gg has ever seen, then everyone shuts up. Rinse n repeat.


    When we learn :teeheek:

    I'm not an Aespa fan but I think they're different from any other 4th gen group. there is something special about them, I have to admit.


    Now they've got a chance to make it but depends on the music SM gives them

  • I'm not an Aespa fan but I think they're different from any other 4th gen group. there is something special about them, I have to admit.


    Now they've got a chance to make it but depends on the music SM gives them

    Making it and coming close to BP's level are 2 different things. Someone already explained it here.


    Blackpink's debut was something else that shaped up the entire industry and defined the trend other ggs would follow. It just felt they were destined to reach the top from the start, which they did in very short time.


    Expecting itzy, aespa and so on to keep up is asking too much from them. Blackpink are on their way to be one of if not the biggest girl group ever, meanwhile others are fighting for a distant 2nd place. Only thing that can stop them is disbandment

  • blinks and mys have one thing in common, thinking their groups are that superior and unreachable. y'all could be besties

  • To those who belittle BP's achievements: One BP comeback and you'll eat your words. I am sure of it.

  • blinks and mys have one thing in common, thinking their groups are that superior and unreachable. y'all could be besties

    This! When BP maybe should at least hold even a 1 day sold out 75k stadium/day for 2 days in the West first and hit BB hot 100 top 5 without collab, then we talk. . I know BP IS extremely huge in Asia though even surpassing BTS.

  • This! When BP maybe should at least hold even a 1 day sold out 75k stadium/day for 2 days in the West first and hit BB hot 100 top 5 without collab, then we talk. . I know BP IS extremely huge in Asia though even surpassing BTS.

    The only place bp is really bigger than bts in asia is SEA ( before someone says china nah you cant compare bts single sales with bp because bp have their music available in the biggest music platform there meanwhile bts is available in a much smaller platform called neatase plus taehyung fanbase there is the biggest for kpop idols), bts is a lot more popular in india and japan too.

  • I think nobody can BTS nor Surpass them ( if BTS would come back to korean music that would be great :peperain: )

    but blackpink i have mixed feelings about them :(

    it just dont feel like they are a group with all these solo activities and with such a small discography list

    if anyone i think Aespa can possibly compete with Blackpink :yesr:

    Aespa has my vote

  • a certain fandom is a bit too comfortable belittling blackpink and it's time for y'all to leave your bubble and see the things the way they are.


    blackpink is MILES ahead of any girl group out there and everyone denying this by saying "oh but they haven't achieved anything so everyone can surpass them" is just straight-up delusional. if it was that easy to surpass blackpink then why no one else has done it yet? aespa definitely has the potential to be one of the biggest kpop groups ever but they haven't achieved even 5% of what bp did in their debut/rookie days. most of you are token stanning them only because next level blew up but I'm sure y'all can't name a single song from their album without googling it first


    also, i haven't seen a single person saying blackpink is on bts' level but here you are going "but they haven't done this, they haven't done that unlike my boys who're times better than them". like chill damn, y'all are acting like they cursed your mother just because they got mentioned in the same thread

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