Where did the BPink fan vs BTS fan beef originate from?

  • both are the biggest kpop groups. both have huge fandoms. both fandoms have stans who are in the deep end.

  • Another thread? Man armys popularity are booming these days but to answer the question I think it started when YG started media playing them comparing to BTS and whatnot and the usual fanwar stuff.

    it wasn't YG's mediaplay but the media comparing both of them but I think the beef started way before that though I think started when bp started break MV's views records

  • Sure that’s your opinion . The beef I noticed started on stan twt was cos of constant mediaplaying and comparing the two which didn’t sit well with many fans.

    it's not my opinion reporters love to use clickbait and assuming it's YG's mediaplay is reaching when we know how the media love to create controversies for views not only in KPOP but in general.

  • it wasn't YG's mediaplay but the media comparing both of them but I think the beef started way before that though I think started when bp started break MV's views records

    A little competition isn’t hurting anyone, but toxic fans from both sides although one like to act like an evangelical contributed to all the fames.like as an Army I saw blinks/kpop stans shit on BTS. And no denying is going to deny that yg didnt media play. They do this for all their groups it’s not special.

  • BP managed to have international popularity even in their early days because of themselves and YG. And in 2018 they got a lot of traction and people noticed. For a lot of kpop fans they were the only ones who could challenge or surpass BTS and they token stanned them in order for that to happen. Plus, YG used this to fuel a rivarly. There was shade coming from the company itself or media affiliated with the company. I think quite a few of their fans or other kpop groups rejoiced in that and they used it to bring BTS down or undermine their achievements.

    For Armys international popularity was BTS' turf because kpop fans used to make fun of that but all of a sudden, everyone coveted that as well. So, quite a few of Armys saw BP as a threat because of what I mentioned and reacted to this situation by throwing shade or hate to the group. In some cases way too much and unnecessarily.

  • Lmaoooo YG doesn’t media play? Sure let’s believe that. Agree to disagree here

    I didn't say that lol I said those articles are obviously from reporters and journalists doing clickbait since back then BP and BTS were kind of competing from a similar international market (kind of) but now BTS is indisputable bigger, so they don't make any more of those clickbaity articles.

    YG's media play is different is more like comparing their groups ex baemon is like 10 Jennies or that winner/iKON are like the next Bigbang

  • I didn't say that lol I said those articles are obviously from reporters and journalists doing clickbait since back then BP and BTS were kind of competing from a similar international market (kind of) but now BTS is indisputable bigger, so they don't make any more of those clickbaity articles.

    YG's media play is different is more like comparing their groups ex baemon is like 10 Jennies or that winner/iKON are like the next Bigbang

    Let’s agree to disagree.

  • What bothers me the most about some Army's attitude towards BP is the unfairness of it all. Why do Army's shade certain acts like BP and Aespa, and not others like Twice, OMG and IU? For some reason, BP and Aespa are seen as a threat while Twice, IU, and OMG arent. Heck, Armys welcome IU with open arms, but would they still be so welcoming of her if she had collabed with BP instead of Suga?

      

  • YG media play as others have said and the media itself being unable to write an article without including both groups, pitting them against each other, or straight up saying that BP was better than BTS. From many ARMYs' perspective, an immense amount of hard fandom work over the course of years went into boosting BTS to the top and opening many new doors in the industry, so there was a lot of resentment that others were benefiting from that work without acknowledgement ofthe work that was done and without having to work nearly as hard as both BTS and ARMY had worked. I do think the early media play helped BP in the west initially and that added fuel to the fire.

  • Maybe Thucydides Trap?


    Fans foolish enough to make a mere entertainment act, into centrality of their lives, might feel the same sort of dynamics, like in geopolitics or simple insecurity and jealousy.

  • I think first it was YouTube, than the groups have been constantly pitied against each other for a while, it started to catch and soon enough they were at each other’s throat discussing who was bigger etc

  • it wasn't YG's mediaplay but the media comparing both of them but I think the beef started way before that though I think started when bp started break MV's views records

    Agree!! i remember reading something about BTS ( or linking BTS) in one of BP's album's. In fact it was mentioned here too: YG uses BTS to mediaplay BP.


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    https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/06/netizens-expose-ygs-media-play-history

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  • What bothers me the most about some Army's attitude towards BP is the unfairness of it all. Why do Army's shade certain acts like BP and Aespa, and not others like Twice, OMG and IU? For some reason, BP and Aespa are seen as a threat while Twice, IU, and OMG arent. Heck, Armys welcome IU with open arms, but would they still be so welcoming of her if she had collabed with BP instead of Suga?

    Imo my pov being a fan is because some toxic blackpink and aespa fans (a lot of them are sm stans) would also engage in fandom wars more than IU and OMG fans as an example, kinda like that it takes two to fight. So a lot of fans would end up in contact with those toxic fans and grow negative feeling towards the group, I know it’s dumb and I also think it’s no excuse to hate anyone.

  • Agree!! i remember reading something about BTS ( or linking BTS) in one of BP's album's. In fact it was mentioned here too: YG uses BTS to mediaplay BP.


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    https://www.allkpop.com/articl…se-ygs-media-play-history

    Like BB fanboys aka BTS in their early years? Like BB # being used on BTS early videos? Isn't this media play or am I hallucinating?

    Putting the blame on groups when the "culprits" are the companies just shows how hypocrite some kpop fans are. Just say that you (in general) want an excuse to hate the group.

  • What bothers me the most about some Army's attitude towards BP is the unfairness of it all. Why do Army's shade certain acts like BP and Aespa, and not others like Twice, OMG and IU? For some reason, BP and Aespa are seen as a threat while Twice, IU, and OMG arent. Heck, Armys welcome IU with open arms, but would they still be so welcoming of her if she had collabed with BP instead of Suga?

    Huh?! Twice is doing very well in the States rn. Their new album has gotten a higher score from critics and most ARMYS are chill about it.

    And Twice vs BTS in Japan has existed since a long time ago, but fans were chill.


    I reckon it's because of most Blinks attitude (like yours), here and on Twitter belittling BTS while hyping up BP's 'achievements'. I don't even want to recall how vile Blinks were on Twitter to BTS members.


    Oh! And Aespa? I don't care about them. It's just that their songs are meh to me ( bop vs flop threads)

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  • Huh?! Twice is doing very well in the States rn. Their new album has gotten a higher score from critics and most ARMYS are chill about it.

    And Twice vs BTS in Japan has existed since a long time ago, but fans were chill.


    I reckon it's because of most Blinks attitude (like yours), here and on Twitter belittling BTS while hyping up BP's 'achievements'. I don't even want to recall how vile Blinks were on Twitter to BTS members.

    Me having flashbacks of some tt armys photoshopping BP fake Spotify ad, creating a whole narrative of yt counting their "non existent" clicks as views towards BP MV when in reality they were there since the live premiere kkkkkk are you really going to play like this? Both sides are trash, why make this circus when in both sides we can find "evidences"??

  • I reckon it's because of most Blinks attitude (like yours), here and on Twitter belittling BTS while hyping up BP's 'achievements'. I don't even want to recall how vile Blinks were on Twitter to BTS members.

    I reckon we have beef because of blanket statements like these. there are toxic fans in each fandom.


    I mean literally ur over here using quotes when saying Blackpink achievements and calling most blinks vile.


    Twitter is a cesspit of vile people from all fandom.


    frankly, these statements just reflect badly on you.

  • This one user was all shade towards Lisa Money success and tried to downplay it by any means. Should we listen to such person? I don't think so.

  • international popularity I guess

    but when BP debuted many armys were very supportive of them I don't know what happened later

    Because at that time Armys' competition was Twice in term of YouTube views. Blackpink started big so they were considered a threat to Twice. It was like my enemie's enemie is my friend.

    But ever since Blackpink started to have even better views, Armys shifted their attention to Blackpink.

  • Lmaoooo YG doesn’t media play? Sure let’s believe that. Agree to disagree here

    yg does media play and so does every big company including hybe, jyp, sm etc..


    I'm just sad that stans use mediaplay( which is a reflection fo the company and not the group/memebrs) to fight.

  • This one user was all shade towards Lisa Money success and tried to downplay it by any means. Should we listen to such person? I don't think so.


    There was an Army calling Money a cheap Cardi B copy. If i had said something similarly nasty about My Universe which is 10x worse than Money, or Dynamite which is 10000x worse, i would have gotten crucified on here. This one comment almost turned me into the old BlackpinkHouse again. :ragec:

      

  • There was an Army calling Money a cheap Cardi B copy. If i had said something similarly nasty about My Universe which is 10x worse than Money, or Dynamite which is 10000x worse, i would have gotten crucified on here. This one comment almost turned me into the old BlackpinkHouse again. :ragec:

    They think we are dumb kkkkk everybody saw how some armys HERE were shade towards Lisa bc of Money success!!

    About the part of worse, calm down bc personal taste is personal taaaaaste!! Kkkk

  • FUCKING PREACH!!

    work in progress

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