IVE - ELEVEN - hanteo - 220k

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  • Highest for 2021 rookie till now

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  • This honestly very impressive seeing how they had a better start physically than so many big companies girl groups. I can see them propelling to top group status in the future if they manage to catch the attention of gp.

  • This honestly very impressive seeing how they had a better start physically than so many big companies girl groups. I can see them propelling to top group status in the future if they manage to catch the attention of gp.

    The only recent ggs from big companies are aespa and itzy tho, and they sold better. It's not fair to compare with older groups like twice or red velvet since the market was much smaller back then. This is for sure great for a company like Starship, I think they surpassed all cube ggs debuts. But it's not better than big 3.

  • The only recent ggs from big companies are aespa and itzy tho, and they sold better. It's not fair to compare with older groups like twice or red velvet since the market was much smaller back then. This is for sure great for a company like Starship, I think they surpassed all cube ggs debuts. But it's not better than big 3.

    izone were literally competing with top groups like twice and bp and were outselling RV

    Itzy first album sold 32k on its first week

    selling 56k copies on its first day is impressive even itzy don’t have high debut even if their 4th day are usually bigger

    It’s impressive because they aren’t coming from a big3 nowadays gg can sell 100k which was rare 3-4 yo ago

    If they keep growing like that they can compete with itzy and aespa

  • The only recent ggs from big companies are aespa and itzy tho, and they sold better. It's not fair to compare with older groups like twice or red velvet since the market was much smaller back then. This is for sure great for a company like Starship, I think they surpassed all cube ggs debuts. But it's not better than big 3.

    Well it IS better seeing they’re sitting at #2 only behind Aespa. They might lose steam eventually since no one can predict the future, but they did have a better start than any other group that came out in recent years (2016/2017 onwards) except Aespa which is what this thread is about. And before someone comes in and says why mention other groups, there’s literally a comparison tweet in the OP so…


    And I’m talking about physicals sales sod course. Digital numbers are another discussion.

  • The only recent ggs from big companies are aespa and itzy tho, and they sold better. It's not fair to compare with older groups like twice or red velvet since the market was much smaller back then. This is for sure great for a company like Starship, I think they surpassed all cube ggs debuts. But it's not better than big 3.

    Also don't forget that Aespa's first sales only came out almost 1 year after their debut after they had already established themselves for a while. So that's not really comparable either.

  • Most of the sales seem to come from their Chinese bars


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    Damn

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  • 100k first week?

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    Its very possible

    narcissistic, my god i love it

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  • izone were literally competing with top groups like twice and bp and were outselling RV

    Itzy first album sold 32k on its first week

    selling 56k copies on its first day is impressive even itzy don’t have high debut even if their 4th day are usually bigger

    It’s impressive because they aren’t coming from a big3 nowadays gg can sell 100k which was rare 3-4 yo ago

    If they keep growing like that they can compete with itzy and aespa

    Using itzy is weird even stayc sold more than itzy debut first week, times have changed so it’s not a fair comparison at all. Also we are gonna act like produce 48 wasn’t big and Wonyoung and yujin don’t have a fanbase from there. They aren’t the underdogs you are trying to make them to be. Starship isn’t really a small company either. You even mentioned in your statement 3-4 years ago it was rare but it isn’t now. I wish people can just praise their faves album sales without rolling in other groups

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  • Also don't forget that Aespa's first sales only came out almost 1 year after their debut after they had already established themselves for a while. So that's not really comparable either.

    yeah and ? Ive debut album comes out after Wonyoung and Yujin had 2 years promoting with Izone who was a top GG and had the time to build big fanbase especially considering that wonyoung was the center of Izone and got a lot of exposure '-'

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  • Using itzy is weird even stayc sold more than itzy debut first week, times have changed so it’s not a fair comparison at all. Also we are gonna act like produce 48 wasn’t big and Wonyoung and yujin don’t have a fanbase from there. They aren’t the underdogs you are trying to make them to be. Starship isn’t really a small company either. You even mentioned in your statement 3-4 years ago it was rare but it isn’t now. I wish people can just praise their faves album sales without rolling in other groups

    Stayc 1st album didn’t sell more than itzy debut their first album sold like 4K copies on its first day


    Starship isn’t even know for having monster physical sellers their only group who can sell high is monsta x and they aren’t considered as a top group at all

    Produce shows are big but once the members disband and re debut they usually flop weki meki gugudan...

    Definitely IVE was helped by having two popular members but that doesn’t change the fact they are selling well for a rookie group

    OP was literally saying they can’t surpass Itzy and Aespa which I said it was possible izone were literally competing with twice and bp even gidle last year were pulling the same number as itzy


    It has nothing to do with downgrading a group like!/€/& I’m the 1st itzy defender &/&2


    But people always underestimate non big 3

  • I’m talking about stayc 1st mini album since itzy was also 1st mini album. Also I said first week sales. No matter what , you are trying to act like they are underdogs but they are not . I admit they are selling well but it’s not surprising .people don’t underestimate non big 3 , they just over hate and overestimate big 3

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  • yeah and ? Ive debut album comes out after Wonyoung and Yujin had 2 years promoting with Izone who was a top GG and had the time to build big fanbase especially considering that wonyoung was the center of Izone and got a lot of exposure '-'

    And you actually think most Wiz*Ones followed Wonyoung and Yujin? Anyways thats besides the point. The point is that it isn't a good comparison to compare a brand new group's debut album sales vs a group's album sales after almost a year and after they're already in their second comeback and had enough time to get momentum and build their fanbase. If you can't understand why then that's on you

  • I don't get this comment? You say Iz*One's sales will inform I've's, but in the same breath, you also say that Iz*One's success won't translate to I've. So what's the truth lol

  • And you actually think most Wiz*Ones followed Wonyoung and Yujin? Anyways thats besides the point. The point is that it isn't a good comparison to compare a brand new group's debut album sales vs a group's album sales after almost a year and after they're already in their second comeback and had enough time to get momentum and build their fanbase. If you can't understand why then that's on you


    Yujin and Wonyoung bar bought more than 50K album

    and lot of wizones were excited for their debut


    there's no need to present them like these nugus who didn't have an advantage when obviously being a member of Izone for 2 years and gave them the opportunity to grow a solo fanbase help a lot Ive to achieve this numbers '-'

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  • I don't get this comment? You say Iz*One's sales will inform I've's, but in the same breath, you also say that Iz*One's success won't translate to I've. So what's the truth lol

    People are already using yujin and Wonyoung and are saying izone sales are translated to ive sales which is true

    But at the same time produce members don’t always guarantee success there are a shit of of rebranded produce group and they still flop

    (Anyway i was answering OP and saying that I’ve can definitely compete with top gg groups in the future)

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