[Hot take] Anyone who says their fave's juniors are "leeches" is a success stan.

"They're using my fave's money when they're not even successful". Ok, dumbass.

1. First of all, you sayin an awful lot of "my". Last time I checked, any and all money you spend goes to the company first, not directly to your fave's bank account.

2. Once it's the company's money, it's down to contractual obligation between the company and your faves about how much your faves are paid and how much is put toward other company activities (because your faves are not the only people employed contrary to what you might believe).

3. If said other activities means investing into trainees and/or paying for comeback expenses for junior groups that the company is ALSO responsible for, then that is none of your damn business. The second you pressed "Confirm" on the order, that money does not belong to you. It is gone.

4. Claiming your fave's success as your own and demanding that the company not put their money towards multiple sources of income (some of which will not include idol activity at all!) makes you look greedy, entitled and plain stupid.

5. Calling a junior group a leech would imply that they survive by doing absolutely nothing but still get paid. But the last time I checked, junior groups still have to be trained, debut, and then put through their own rigorous schedule for years to come. That is a fucking job, not sitting in the dorms without lifting a finger.

This is a topic that has eaten away at me ever since I stanned TXT and I've seen this argument used against other rookie groups (Treasure, ENHYPEN, aespa) and even used against popular groups retroactively (SKZ, NCT, RV).

Get it through your head: YOU OWE NO CLAIM, YOU'RE A CONSUMER.

Quote from chainyviolet

Yeah unless the company hired you for investment advice, you probably shouldn't be complaining about how they spend their own damn money.

The damn truth

Quote from Minazuki

This is very stupid

My argument or the fact that some people believe their fave's juniors are leeches?

Quote from omnimorphism

[Hot take .5] Fans don't get that labels are companies and groups are products. Companies need to put out newer products to keep making money and for that they use the money they got from previous products. That's no different from how any industry works.

SPILLED! We are fans to the artists, but consumers and $$$ to the label. The label outlasts the group 90% of the time.

You invest into the company first and foremost with any purchase of merch, concert ticket, album, or fanclub membership, etc.

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It's not even just a thing with juniors. When the rumors about GOT7 leaving JYP started really kicking in and they were giving their last album the shittiest promotions it was an entire argument about how GOT7 is wasting all of Twice's money.

This isn't my argument today, but you're right as well. Ahgases and ONCEs arguing bout some "pillars of JYP", bitch SHUT UP.

The money they earned was split up to be invested into SKZ, ITZY, NiziU, the new Loud boy group, and any other activities JYPe has going on. It is not just "their" money, "their" money that's what's in their bank account. And you don't know how much is in there, nor should you; and you don't owe claim to their paycheck either.

Lookin some damn fools arguing over album sales and investor reports when you don't even work there.

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isn't SJ one of SM's biggest touring groups and 3rd after NCT, EXO in album sales

They been contributing to SM far longer than RV has, that's their point.

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Damn f*cking straight, Massive.

You're always on the right side of history.

Quote from Lubby00

Like your senior groups success doesn’t determine what a junior group gets to do, nor do you as a stan dictate it either

That’s the companies concern & theirs + their groups alone

Exactly, you're following the plot!

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Call me a BH anti I still want the American kpop project to flop hard.

I do agree with what you said though. I think people say that when they want to vent or just plain jealous

To your first point, that's not really related to my topic. But K-pop companies will continue to be capitalistic and try to expand to other markets even when no one asked.

To your second point, people say that because they feel personally and/or emotionally attached to seeing their fave's rise to success. So how do dare the company use the money they earned to fuel other projects (which includes other idol groups) designed to keep their profits up?

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The group would not exist without the company and the support and talents provided by the staff so when people are like, "The group made all that money for the company and the money should be spent only on them!" it sounds really stupid.

The group and HUNDREDS of other workers collaboratively made the song and performance that earned the revenue (not to mention investing in the group members to train them and house them even before debut). It was at team effort so profit should be split accordingly and if the company wants to reinvest part of their share of the money on other groups and projects, then they can.

Period, companies have shareholders to think about not to mention paying to rent out other services and facilities. And that's on top of the dozens or even hundreds of employees working part- or full-time. And if they ever took out loans, yeah the costs start to add up....

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It's so weird when people say that the younger groups from the same company are leeches

The gif form of Junhoe makes it even better lmfaooooo

Quote from strawhatcrew

true, they always make their opinion so entitled too.. its embarassing

It's like "They're leeching off [GUNSHOTS]"

Bitch, the moment that money leaves your bank account, unless the company is committing tax fraud or gambling, you have no right to speak about how that money is spent.