BTS, Blackpink and Twice are the big 3 of 3rd gen

  • You mean IU?


    Why is she considered a senior singer though?


    She debuted in 2008 and the "senior" in KPOP for idols means they've been an idol for a long time.

    Even some 3rd gen groups are considered senior idols.

    Nah, it's a drag.

    Nobody calls IU a "Senior Singer of K-pop".

    She's not even 30 geez :P


    She did debut early, and she is considered Sunbae to most of the groups active today.

    But just watch her interactions with other idols. She's always sweet and invites them to their concerts

    or goes out of her way to make them feel good on her interviews.


    The last interview she did with Akmu, Suhyun was calling her Unnie and she was smiling all the time.

  • She debuted in 2008 and the "senior" in KPOP for idols means they've been an idol for a long time.

    Even some 3rd gen groups are considered senior idols.

    Actually, only IU, BTS and BoA can be considered Senior since they received Lifetime Achievement Awards but since IU received it on 2014 (BTS 2019 from Gaon, BoA 2020 from MAMA), she is the most senior despite of her younger age.

  • Actually, only IU, BTS and BoA can be considered Senior since they received Lifetime Achievement Awards but since IU received it on 2014 (BTS 2019 from Gaon, BoA 2020 from MAMA), she is the most senior despite of her younger age.

    I agree with you since you are correct.

    But in Kpop forums the "Senior singer" is used as a drag.

    To make Jigum sound like she's washed out.

    It has been used before here, in this forum.


    That's why I prefer the term Sunbae. Since that carries over a sense of respect.

  • Dae Sunbae indeed.

  • I prefer Senior Singer for the power she wields over other KPop acts junior to her, since her very presence means a powerful non-Kpopper can influence KPop to some (actually a large) degree.

  • Blackpink CF alone make more money than a whole twice career. This thread is funny many kids don't know how business work.

    That makes them professional models and not singers-idols.

    That precisely is the issue with BP - lack of discography to substantiate their fans, making them some sort of Kardashians, famous for being famous, rather than art.


    But I don't blame the individual members, they definitely have the skills to produce content, they have proven that.

    But the nature of most industries have changed, instead of some glamour built on more substance, nowadays you could have careers with less substance and more froth.


    YG-BP has been smart to leverage that.


    Song making is less profitable and more work, than endorsements and advertisement.

    So CF, social media etc will do.


    After all idols aren't selling art, art is an excuse, packaging, what they are selling is a 'Truman Show' of their beauty, luxury, charmed life.


    All idols, even actors, artists can't escape that. Just that the extent varies and within the top tier of koop, BP has the worst substance to fame ratio.


    So flaunting that they make more money out of CF is rather unfortunate.

  • While some professional lips syncer can't release a quality music like Blackpink does.

  • While some professional lips syncer can't release a quality music like Blackpink does.

    Maybe, yet that BP's 'quality' discography is lacking in quantity for the number of years and fame, is a fact.


    The legacy of artists is built by a portfolio of work and not by CFs.


    As a BP fan, aren't you unhappy with the lack of comebacks?

    Or do you blame it on the company to satisfy yourselves?


    Now they are all starting solo careers, effectively that means even less chances of BP content.


    The most famous group with least body of work.

    Is not something to be proud of.

  • Most Blinks love to hea more quality music from Blackpink not going to listen someone lips syncing cheap produce songs.

  • Most Blinks love to hea more quality music from Blackpink not going to listen someone lips syncing cheap produce songs.

    Those are two difference things.

    You shouldn't have boasted about BP's CF earnings as an excuse.


    As to lip synch, only fools will expect idols don't lip synch/auto tune, while performing active choreography. That only aespa's-ae members can do.Not human beings.


    As mentioned, it is not idols vocal abilities that is the product, but their "packaged life".


    If it is vocal abilities, then there are many known and less famous people who are far more capable than BP, Twice etc.


    That's why there is a difference between calling some idols and others as singers.

    They are overlapping professions, but vocal expertise is required for singers, not that critical for idols.

    They just need to be better than the average in singing, dancing, looks, rest is all packaging and promotions.


    Don't let your emotional investment in BP, override reasoning.


    I enjoy BP, but am not expecting vocal phenomena from them.

  • Blackpink CF alone make more money than a whole twice career. This thread is funny many kids don't know how business work.

    A laughable and embarrassing claim. Twice made(officially from Oricon) 80 million Euro in album sales alone in Japan between 2017 and 2019, don't delude yourself into to thinking any and all of their CF's touch that...just albums in 1 country for 3 years. They made 29.5M Euro in 2020, only CD sales on Oricon lol.

  • Maybe yu don't know what Idol really are. You shouldn't bragging about albums sell if you adore lips syncer not singer. They're not many singers who get praise by lips sync from knetz . I remember how top news articles was flooded by their lips sync performance.

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