How the hell does KoKoBop have so many melon streams

  • Alright.

    Since everyone who was quick to conclude and judge that Exo Ko Ko Bop's streams were fake and fan manipulation, was extremely slow or hesitant to provide actual legit proof for those conclusions/accusations/rumors, I decided to do some googling myself.


    Since I'm no EXO-L, and only paid superficial, fleeting attention to those matters spoken of back then.


    This is what I've found so far:


    The only times Melon announced their chart reforms that I found


    * Feb '17: charts changed to noon refresh instead of midnight refresh

    * (early) July '17: Melon system reformation (artists barred from releasing songs at midnight)

    * July '18: chart freeze from 1-7 AM (Melon and other charts, in response to sajaegi)

    * July '20: change to the 24h chart



    When it comes to EXO and Melon:


    - EXO ‘Ko Ko Bop’ Scores the 2nd Highest Amount of Unique Listeners on MelOn for 2017 After System Reformation


    EXO’s ‘Ko Ko Bop’ scores the 2nd Highest amount of Unique Listeners by any artist on Melon during the first hour after the system change that barred any artist from releasing music at midnight.


    - EXO, which is usually just known for its physical album sales, became the first idol group after the chart change to debut at number one on the Melon chart, arguably the most popular chart in Korea, with “Kokobop”


    - Hanteo Chart Apologizes For Manipulating EXO's 2017 Album Sales; First Melon, Now Hanteo,Who's Next


    On October 18, Hanteo chart apologized for manipulating EXO's 2017 Album sales. They officially admitted that their employee manipulated EXO's album sales and Chinese bulk order numbers with an intention to show less count of sales.

    This was not the first time EXO was subjected to such unfairness. In 2016, Melon music awards denied an award which rightfully belonged to EXO. When fans demanded an explanation from the show conductors, they simply stated it was due to "Internal data".

    But on October 2017, Melon released the details of most streamed song in 2016, and it was EXO's Monster, with 190,898,389 streams.




    Granted, this was just a quick browse and look up, so maybe I missed some.

    But these were the actual, announced Melon (and other charts) changes that I could find so far.


    They were either before EXO's Ko Ko Bop release, or a very long time after.

    The reasons given for those changes were also all kinda different stuff, the only times that EXO got mentioned in relation to Melon charts and changes was that they were doing so well despite the chart changes (or that they'd been unfairly treated/robbed).



    Like said, I might've missed some announced Melon chart changes. If so, I'd like to invite those making the quick judgements and rumor repeaters to provide the evidence that states Melon changed because of EXO's Ko Ko Bop :):pepe-toast:

  • Bruh.....

    This is hilarious.


    Thanks for compiling all these

  • Everyone after you asked them for proof

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  • a fraud...
    exols armys and wannables made Melon in 2017 looks like a battlefield

    the difference is that the gp was slowly started to love SD, and then the uls increase too (now the second biggest uls from the platform)
    and even Energetic (5kk uls )

    the same cant said about Ko Ko Bop
    about all 2017 smash hits they had the worst uls
    kii

  • ?


    They did alright.

    These seemed to be the unique listeners for boy groups in 2017 in Genie:

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  • ?


    They did alright.

    These seemed to be the unique listeners for boy groups in 2017 in Genie:

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    The comment you replied to is talking about current ULs on Melon, not Genie in 2017.


    Most of the 2017 hits (Knock Knock, LIKEY, Heart Shaker, Peek a Boo, Red Flavor, AIIYL, Energetic, REALLY REALLY, Signal, Missing You, Beautiful, Yes I Am, DNA, Spring Day) all have 4M or more ULs on Melon as of today.

    Not Ko Ko Bop though.

  • The comment you replied to is talking about current ULs on Melon, not Genie in 2017.


    Most of the 2017 hits (Knock Knock, LIKEY, Heart Shaker, Peek a Boo, Red Flavor, AIIYL, Energetic, REALLY REALLY, Signal, Missing You, Beautiful, Yes I Am, DNA, Spring Day) all have 4M or more ULs on Melon as of today.

    Not Ko Ko Bop though.

    If you want to get an overall picture, it's no use fixating on just 1 stat or just 1 digital platform.


    Especially seeing how a number of the naysayers/antis/other-group stans/howeveryouwannacallthem seem to be quick to bandwagon believe all kinda fake news rumors that seem to shade EXO's achievements, but at the same time are refusing to regard all the facts and news that are painting a broader, more complex picture, one that showed that EXO were actually doing alright with their Ko Ko Bop comeback in a lot of ways, including digitally.


    How it looks like to me is that a number of other-group stans will categorically disbelieve anything that will show that EXO wasn't a goner and actually had a good comeback with Ko Ko Bop. And why? Because they dislike EXO or something? :wellr:

  • The comment you replied to is talking about current ULs on Melon, not Genie in 2017.


    Most of the 2017 hits (Knock Knock, LIKEY, Heart Shaker, Peek a Boo, Red Flavor, AIIYL, Energetic, REALLY REALLY, Signal, Missing You, Beautiful, Yes I Am, DNA, Spring Day) all have 4M or more ULs on Melon as of today.

    Not Ko Ko Bop though.

    So you’re not gonna comment on how the op also called it fraud? I never see you defend exo when it comes to these things


    Did exols make fraudulent streams on genie as well since it had 49M streams on that chart compared to the rest

  • If you want to get an overall picture, it's no use fixating on just 1 stat or just 1 digital platform.


    Especially seeing how a number of the naysayers/antis/other-group stans/howeveryouwannacallthem seem to be quick to bandwagon believe all kinda fake news rumors that seem to shade EXO's achievements, but at the same time are refusing to regard all the facts and news that are painting a broader, more complex picture, one that showed that EXO were actually doing alright with their Ko Ko Bop comeback in a lot of ways, including digitally.


    How it looks like to me is that a number of other-group stans will categorically disbelieve anything that will show that EXO wasn't a goner and actually had a good comeback with Ko Ko Bop. And why? Because they dislike EXO or something? :wellr:

    Ko Ko Bop was a success, that's very plain to see.


    And yes, some users dislike EXO (for what reasons, I don't care to find out).

  • So you’re not gonna comment on how the op also called it fraud? I never see you defend exo when it comes to these things


    Did exols make fraudulent streams on genie as well since it had 49M streams on that chart compared to the rest

    I said on page 1, that K-EXOLs were monster streamers back then. I'm not gonna speak on what other people said about the streams because I didn't know what Melon was back then nor how people used it, because I was new to K-pop and was just starting to branch out to other groups, which is actually how I discovered EXO's music.


    And since when do I have to defend them? I don't ult EXO in case you haven't noticed.

    Ko ko bop is a bop, it was well received, the uls are good, exo-ls were competitive and they streamed no one is denying it here. But somehow it's questioned only when exo-ls stream bc why? Exo is not allowed to have strong digitals?

    :pepe-toilet:

    EXO does have good digitals, GG stans would get very mad if I put EXO above any of the 3rd gen GGs besides TWICE.

  • Bigger than Growl? I don't think so. If you say EXO, Growl will be the first song everyone will say.


    I'm not slandering Ko Ko Bop, but it's a regular hit. There's nothing wrong with that. Taemin's Move is also released in 2017. It did not go well in the charts initially, but we can say it's a mega-hit because of its impact.

    Lmao move is a total bop but a mega hit? Its numbers dont even equal it being a hit

  • I said on page 1, that K-EXOLs were monster streamers back then. I'm not gonna speak on what other people said about the streams because I didn't know what Melon was back then nor how people used it, because I was new to K-pop and was just starting to branch out to other groups, which is actually how I discovered EXO's music.


    And since when do I have to defend them? I don't ult EXO in case you haven't noticed.

    EXO does have good digitals, GG stans would get very mad if I put EXO above any of the 3rd gen GGs besides TWICE.

    Lol whats the reason for why your acting like Twice isnt the bigger digital act by quite a bit? RV and MMO would be the ones, not like Exo suprasses either of them tho


    Are "gg stans" that desperate to dismiss Twice? How am i not surprised

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