They just debut already talented and complete, being called an SM stan is considered an insult, its such a bad thing to stan talent.
Sm groups dont need 5 years of experience to get better at singing or rapping or dancing, thats what a training period is for, other groups debut and maybe show improvements over years, sm groups debut talented and still show improvement over time too.
When you look at NCT, Red velvet, Exo, Aespa, Shinee, FX vocal line... cant really deny, they debut much more complete than some groups that are around for years and years. In saying that they do improve too, which is crazy... Exo already debuted talented, but now they are just super talented. Same goes with RV, and I'm sure will go with Aespa when they already outsinging most too.
People hate on SM groups, but their debut groups are more complete than groups of 5+ years
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This is not gonna end well but I agree
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This is not gonna end well but I agree
You predicted it too
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SmTalent! SmPop!!
It's overwhelming how much talent everyone has in that company
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
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This ain't gonna end well but I agree
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You predicted it too
If people take it as SM groups' appreciation thread like I did then it can end well
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everyone's entitled to their opinion though, nothing wrong with that.
Yeah but fanwars could come out of this.
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
Do you like Streets?
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
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some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
Now with your past history and that comment this thread can get messy
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Now with your past history and that comment this thread can get messy
this thread is gonna flop appreciation threads always do
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Do you like Streets?
Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
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Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
Whats a favorite track? I love KMM Rules streets say so and Lots of her old stuff
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Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
yeah very true.
And just to say there are groups who also debuted talented like b1a4 for example, or Mamamoo, so its not like only SM groups do it but its far more common in SM than elsewhere in the industry. -
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This is what heaven sounds like tbh
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This is what heaven sounds like tbh
External Content www.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.KRY just outshines the planet tbh
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IDK about others but you're right about SM groups. I don't choose to stan their idols because they're from SM but I end staning them anyway because of the talent. I am the definition of SM stan because I like all their artists. Though I unconsciously do it. Not long ago when Aespa was preparing to debut, I didn't care and didn't plan to even see their debut song when it gets out but I ended up stanning when I realized all the girls could sing and heard their pre debut voices. Only not long ago I have started stanning NCT even though they were out for a while now. I never checked them out except last year. Then I got hooked.
I say the same about this new bg. I am not gonna stan hopefully. I am honestly not excited about them and hope SM takes at least a year before debuting them to focus on the already existing new and young ones but that's selfish of me.
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Whats a favorite track? I love KMM Rules streets say so and Lots of her old stuff
Rules, Addiction and Say So, then Like That, Boss Bitch and Down Low! But her whole discography is great
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While is true that SME groups already debut vocally talented, there are some groups who debuted with super weak dancers and even more weak rappers and they improved after debuting with their rappers still be considered bad or decent ..
thats pretty truthful, but they dont really have heavy rap songs. only groups who do is NCT and Aespa
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SM groups definitely have the best vocal polish. But when it comes to rap, dance/performance and song quality, i just dont see it.
Think I'm gonna have to agree with BPHouse here. SM didn't really have an above-average rapper until NCT and even then, YG rappers blow their rappers out of the water.
Though I kinda disagree with dance, Seulgi, Kai, Taemin, etc are all capable.
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But they have dance... And .. kkkk but they are honestly the best when it comes to vocals and this pretty much already make them better than 90% of kpop groups with their iconics songs!!
And thank god both NCT and Aespa have great rappers!!
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I don't understand why everyone's being negative about this, I completely agree, it's no secret SM idols are ready in all departments, even if we think they lack, they mostly surprise us. Theres obviously other companies big and small that also debut very ready idols that are well rounded, but I agree SM has the most. I don't think they will ever debut an idol who at the very least wasn't good in more than two things
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majority of Sm songs are not rap centered more vocal, only recently have they done more rap.
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Do you think this will happen to NCT Hollywood as well? (I mean debut with overflowing talent)
100% even dream has a lot of talent
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This won't end well
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JYP groups? Maybe as a whole cohesive group, however SM for sure has the stand out amazing ones. Performers is more subjective, SM certainly has good ones as well. YG is known for it sure, however that doesn't mean SM lacks.
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This won't end well
theres more comments saying it wont end well then actual bad comments -.-
this thread was more centered at vocals than dance honestly.
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Sm have good stand ones but some might be a bit overhyped not saying they aren't good. (don't kill me
) Taemin and Kai are better performers than dancers from a technique perspective , so as performers they are really good. NCT might have better dancers overall.according to this dance channel that analyzes idols dancing ( she actually is a professional dancer): she says that JYP groups at least for girl groups are better at dancing than SM and YG girl groups. What she meant is that there isn't a big gap between the main and lead dancers so in average their dancing skills are consistently better
For instance, Momo is the best dancer in twice but Jihyo, Sana aren't that far behind obviously they aren't as good as Momo technically, but they aren't lacking and even Nayeon is pretty decent.
For itzy most of the girls are about the same level Ryuijin, Yeji, yuna and chaeryeon they are all above average.
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no one was even talking about 
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