They just debut already talented and complete, being called an SM stan is considered an insult, its such a bad thing to stan talent.
Sm groups dont need 5 years of experience to get better at singing or rapping or dancing, thats what a training period is for, other groups debut and maybe show improvements over years, sm groups debut talented and still show improvement over time too.
When you look at NCT, Red velvet, Exo, Aespa, Shinee, FX vocal line... cant really deny, they debut much more complete than some groups that are around for years and years. In saying that they do improve too, which is crazy... Exo already debuted talented, but now they are just super talented. Same goes with RV, and I'm sure will go with Aespa when they already outsinging most too.

People hate on SM groups, but their debut groups are more complete than groups of 5+ years
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This is not gonna end well but I agree
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This is not gonna end well but I agree
You predicted it too
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You should not have done this, wait for everyone to start mentioning idols that are not from SM or even Big 3 that rap and sing better than SM idols.
everyone's entitled to their opinion though, nothing wrong with that.
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SmTalent! SmPop!!
It's overwhelming how much talent everyone has in that company
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
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This ain't gonna end well but I agree
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You predicted it too
If people take it as SM groups' appreciation thread like I did then it can end well
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everyone's entitled to their opinion though, nothing wrong with that.
Yeah but fanwars could come out of this.
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Yeah but fanwars could come out of this.
I didnt really state any groups to compare though. Its more like an SM appreciation thread
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
Do you like Streets?
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they are definitely really talented but i think because everyone have their eyes on them since debut, makes you spot their talents faster than the idols who come from smaller companies and are just as talented but only get noticed after becoming more famous as time pass.
some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
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some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
Now with your past history and that comment this thread can get messy
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Now with your past history and that comment this thread can get messy
this thread is gonna flop appreciation threads always do
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Do you like Streets?
Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
some groups just debut with autotune as their vocal style though
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
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Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
Whats a favorite track? I love KMM Rules streets say so and Lots of her old stuff
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Definitely but it's not one of my favorites by Doja.
Some do but a lot don't. I think the difference between SM and other companies is that they LOVE to flex vocals, just think about Wendy's "shine on me" in Happiness lol. While most companies usually just pick songs that don't really showcase the members's talents to the fullest and we only get to see it slowly.
yeah very true.
And just to say there are groups who also debuted talented like b1a4 for example, or Mamamoo, so its not like only SM groups do it but its far more common in SM than elsewhere in the industry. -
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