I see a lot of comments these days, all this paving the way discussion and it's making me hella confused.
I've known of kpop since 2009. The first group I heard of was bigbang/2ne1 in lolipop, then SNSD then Super junior. Then so on so forth.
You know what group I didnt hear of first? groups that hadnt debuted yet, aka your faves.
Kpop didnt start when groups like bts twice blackpink became popular, and as surprising as it may seem to you all of those groups were modeled after previous kpop groups, 2NE1 was BP, snsd was Twice and BTS were bap/Big bang inspired. Even if you look at groups like G-idle and Clc, they are modeled after 4Minute.
Basically what I'm getting at is, Kpop has existed for a long time, TVXQ is into their 17th year in kpop, Shinhwa is past 20, 3rd/4th gen didnt pave anything in kpop... it doesnt even make sense Kpop was already existing when they debuted.
Streams, sales, everything is at an all time high in kpop, so the top groups now benefit from that and do amazing things, but that doesn't mean that we downplay how vital it was for those groups to do what they did. Reaching a billion views on youtube? great, but remember SNSD reached 100 million first, BIGBANG reached 200 million first, at a time when views were hard to get.
Sell over a million albums? thats also great, but remember which groups were selling 3-500k back in 2008-12 when the album market was dead in korea?
Basically I'm not trying to downplay any artist here, what 3rd/4th gen did has been beyond phenomenal but Kpop did not start with them, and all of what they done was made possible from the second gen. This is just plain facts. There is no need to get offended, just please. your fave didnt invent Kpop... come on now.
The audacity.. just because you are a mod here doesn't mean you can go around saying BS.
these 2nd generation stand just can't get over their head that the era of their idols are over and all the accomplishment that their idol have been eclipsed.
if want to talk about paving the way. then even your idols did not pave anything then. it was just SEO taiji who paved the way for your idol to exist. then there is nothing for you to brag about.
I also hate the fact that you guys have the audacity say that your idols paved the way. if your idols paved the way why the fuck you guys mocked BTS when they are gaining traction in the West. you even keep. spouting bs that since your idols did not make it in the West and globally, how dare BTS from the night company even try. if it was not for BTS, BP would not be able to dominate globally. your hypocrisy is showing hun.
yes 3rd gen/4th gen did not invent KPOP. newsflash so does BB TVXQ SNSD. they also did not start shit. it was SEO TAIJI for the boys and BOA and SES girls