Can we be honest about Lisa's visual

  • No hate just honesty. Thailand has a lot a lot a lottttt of very beautiful cis and transwomen. Obviously none of them even have 1/10000th of the popularity Lisa has around the world. That being said while Lisa is popular and cute looking I don't think she represents Thailand in terms of visual. And she didn't get famous because of her visual but the "total package" as an entertainer/influencer/model/idol. AND in part because she has more racially ambiguous visual she can grab wider audiences compared to a prettier girl with traditional Thai beauty.

  • In your mind what is traditional Thai beauty?


    Could you give an example?


    I'm not that familiar with their beauty standards.

    There's a lot of diverse beauties, just google Thai model actress


    some pass as East Asian others look more SEA

  • No hate just honesty. Thailand has a lot a lot a lottttt of very beautiful cis and transwomen. Obviously none of them even have 1/10000th of the popularity Lisa has around the world. That being said while Lisa is popular and cute looking I don't think she represents Thailand in terms of visual. And she didn't get famous because of her visual but the "total package" as an entertainer/influencer/model/idol. AND in part because she has more racially ambiguous visual she can grab wider audiences compared to a prettier girl with traditional Thai beauty.

    I agree with on the part about how Lisa gained her popularity, I am tired of people saying that blinks only stan Blackpink because of their visuals. Let's be honest, if I went by visuals, I'd be hardcore stanning Twice because those girls are literally sent from heaven. But I do think she is pretty. I mean if she is your average Thai woman, someone get me a ticket to Thailand so I can get my brother a wife!

  • And she didn't get famous because of her visual but the "total package" as an entertainer/influencer/model/idol.

    Well that's fair enough, yes. She's not a visual though, so I don't know why she would be judged as one.


    And she wasn't signed to YG because they wanted an example of Thai beauty. She got through because of her talent, and that's why she debuted, and it's a major part of why she's so popular.


    I've said it before, and I know some people hate this being brought up, but her "racial ambiguity" may simply be that she's half white. There is no credible source for Lisa's father being her stepfather. It seems like it was basically fan-lore begun by western stans who like to fetishize "exotic" racial purity and were not going to be thwarted by a white Swiss man popping up on a Blackpink House episode and calling Lisa his daughter.


    Her Dad has a small head, very big shoulders, and long limbs. Lisa has a small head, broad shoulders and long limbs. It's not an average body type and they both have it. On two strangers it may not suggest a biological link, but two people who call each other father and daughter...

  • I agree that her visuals help her a lot. When I first saw her I didn’t think she was Asian or thought she might be mixed.. I find her really pretty tho

    Your average ggs enthusiast...

  • So are you mad that she got popular for her talents or that people usually think of her as a representative of Thailand bc it’s not like she chose to be this popular 😭

  • I think Lisa is beautiful, even if she’s not the traditional Thai beauty! I think her uniqueness is something that should be more acceptable in the K-pop industry tbh. There could be a lot of girls that look like her and feel empowered because they see that she is achieving such success as a Thai women in a Korean industry! I think diversity is such a beautiful thing and should be more accepted!❤️

  • You answered yourself when you talked about she being recognized for her talent as she debuted to be a singer/rapper/dancer, not a model who represents Thai traditional beauty.

    She is gorgeous, extremely beautiful and as you said: a full package of talented, charisma.

    She doesn't need to represent Thai beauty. She already represent her country by her hardworking, humble and funny personality. She is thai pride as a girl who flew abroad to success and she is the success!

  • Lisa’s biological father is apparently Thai not white. And she looked like any average Thai girl growing up. Most Thais are a mix of different Asian races from India, Papua New Guinea and China.

  • There's a lot of diverse beauties, just google Thai model actress


    some pass as East Asian others look more SEA

    Lisa’s biological father is apparently Thai not white. And she looked like any average Thai girl growing up. Most Thais are a mix of different Asian races from India, Papua New Guinea and China.

    ??? So, Thais have various looks and Lisa looks like an average Thai girl? Then, why "I don't think she represents Thailand in terms of visual."? Get your thought straight.

    "traditional Thai beauty."? How is it? These were said to be prettiest princesses in the reign of King Rama V

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    Princess Abhavarnee, a niece of the king.


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    Princess Suthathip, the king's favorite daughter who snatched the "prettiest princess" title from Princess Abhavarnee.


    How about the queen to King Rama IV who was praised for her beauty?

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    And, why must Thai beauty be represented by transwomen?


  • Wait a minute. The stepfather in BP House has never been confirmed by YGE or Lisa as her stepfather?? WTF?


    NGL, this whole time, i've debated about Lisa's background. She looks super mixed these days, and her insane body proportions with her long legs lend creedence to this theory. OTOH, if you look at her predebut pics, she looks full Thai. I know plastic surgery is wizardry in Korea but can they actually turn someone who is pure Thai into someone who looks mixed???


    The rumor account i used to follow had yet another crazy twist to the story. The account claimed that the person in the BP House show was in fact just a stepfather, but that the actual biological father was also Swiss. 8|8| Personally, i dont care whether she is full or mixed or whether the dude in BPHouse was her biological father or stepfather. None of this really impacts how i feel about Lisa, to me she is almost a PERFECT idol in every respect (voice, rapping, dancing, character and attitude, personality).


    As for her visuals, like i said, she has insane body proportions with her long limbs and hourglass shape, but her face isnt a visual in and of itself except in certain looks (i found her most attractive in the clips from the Chinese survival show and in her pics from her Paris trip).

      

  • It's her step dad, that's literally confirmed & her biological dad is MIA same as Jennie's dad

    They chose to keep that part of their lives a secret so no point speculating ig


    Lisa doesn't really have an "hourglass" shape as well

  • First of all, transwomen are women.


    And I said "Lisa grew up looking like the typical Thai girl", not that she is a "typical Thai beauty".


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    Those Thai royals you posted were judged on bias, and that was centuries ago. Thai in modern times has a lot of various beauties.


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  • I'm sick of all these posts about what Thai girls are supposed to look like.

    Are you not aware of how diverse Thailand is. Some girls can look completely Korean, and some girls can look Indian, and some girls can look Southeast Asian, and they can all be sisters from the same parents and it's not weird at all. Literally, this is the case of my own relatives. It's very common in Thailand where different races marry each other as the norm. The various ethnicities here don't segregate from one another and most people are mixed with something.

    People said the same thing about how Sorn looks half-white/like Selena Gomez. It's the fact that given some styling, Southeast Asians with their big eyes and tanned skin will resemble whites/latinos more than East Asians would with the same styling. It doesn't make them any less Asian.

    Lisa's relatives have all stated that Marco is her step-father, but that doesn't make him any less of a father to her.

    Here are some Thai celebrities whom people say look mixed but are pure Asian:

    Utt

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    Joss

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    Ploy

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  • It’s either she’s only popular because of her visuals, or she’s popular because of everything except her visuals like? What do you want her to do? She’s popular because of her talent, personality AND visuals

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    Nene from the Bon Bon Girls! A good example.


    I'm fascinated by the impact of not just Lisa but Nene and so many other Thais on the China market. Practically all of whom are very Asian in their looks to be perfectly honest -- like Nene but she isn't the only one.


    Mimi from the Rocket Girls

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    Pam from Sis

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    Among the guys OMG!


    Nichkhun, of course!

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    Mike D (in the buff!)

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    Also Patrick and Nine at Chuang 2021:

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    At least in the China market, they are seen as quintessential Asians just like Japanese or Korean. Lisa is seen in the same way. In fact, her popularity is because she is Thai and Asian.

    Why do I watch survival shows? This!

  • Wait a minute. The stepfather in BP House has never been confirmed by YGE or Lisa as her stepfather?? WTF?


    NGL, this whole time, i've debated about Lisa's background. She looks super mixed these days, and her insane body proportions with her long legs lend creedence to this theory. OTOH, if you look at her predebut pics, she looks full Thai. I know plastic surgery is wizardry in Korea but can they actually turn someone who is pure Thai into someone who looks mixed???


    The rumor account i used to follow had yet another crazy twist to the story. The account claimed that the person in the BP House show was in fact just a stepfather, but that the actual biological father was also Swiss. 8|8| Personally, i dont care whether she is full or mixed or whether the dude in BPHouse was her biological father or stepfather. None of this really impacts how i feel about Lisa, to me she is almost a PERFECT idol in every respect (voice, rapping, dancing, character and attitude, personality).

    Her relatives (on mother's side) said the white man was her stepfather.

    Lisa's biological father surely isn't white and Lisa doesn't look white mixed to Thai eyes.


    Here is Lisa's cousin, Chantakarn Manoban, aka Phayahong. She's in the red corner (black trunks). Does she look somewhat similar to Lisa?

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