Friendly reminder that MAMAMOO exists (even if they peaked at #3)

  • Of course people fight over #1.


    2 is not a winner and 3 no one remembers.

    Yama-Chan theorized that those who peak at #3 are nugu. We will fight for MAMAMOO's legacy! :rant-bee:


    MAMAMOO's best song in my opinion:

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  • Mamamoo had a four year stretch where either a group song or solo song hit #1 on the charts, and Hwasa just had a song last at #1 longer than Ditto.


    That comment did NOT apply to them.


    Also how DARE you close that thread before I could clap back in the absurd "Kobe Bryant is the GOAT and there are numerous GOATs!" argument from David.


    Since you started this, I'm at least pasting what I said.


    David33


    Why can't you even answer basic questions? What was Kobe's peak? What was his prime? What's the difference between the two? What did Kobe do on the court better than Jordan? What made him such an effective scorer?


    We both know you couldn't even begin to answer that without Google or ChatGPT.


    Know your place.

  • superyeah You didn't wait for my thread. You're a traitor. 🤣


    There should be a vote: "Yama is a real MOOMOO or not?" and including what he said. 🤣


    BTW, the best MAMAMOO song, but technically my fave is "Piano Man".


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    Is he a real fan or not? Shading his own "faves".

    Some people just like discussing and debating charts. They're not all some duplicitous scheme to bring the downfall of rival groups. We have a whole digital thread on this forum and you type up this nonsensical diatribe.


    Of course people fight over #1.


    2 is not a winner and 3 no one remembers.



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    Sorry Yama-kid, I'm not gonna continue your NBA agenda. Go, argue with yourself. :iconpepe:

  • You're only not continuing because you know you would've gotten belt to ass in the discussion.

  • Also how DARE you close that thread before I could clap back in the absurd "Kobe Bryant is the GOAT and there are numerous GOATs!" argument from David.

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  • MMM is one of those groups that got left behind because they missed out on international success when kpop was going international.


    But I mean talking purely about Korea, they definitely peaked #1 many times.

    Not only RBshit, but Covid was against them at their peak in 2019, and RBW never tried again to ask Coachella to invite them again.


    But they still managed to be the #1 girl group with a debut US tour tho, with zero promotion.


    RBdumb saying their new World Tour is a large-scale one. Let's see if they can write at least 1 English tweet about it this time.🤣

  • I usually don't share videos like this, but I highly recommend this channel.


    This is a next level song.


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  • I'm aware Mamamoo exists! ^^

    Though, I wasn't into them from the beginning because I just skipped 3rd generation overall.


    I became aware of them after they dropped Aya MV so that's my favorite song.

    And I've collected their previous works and enjoyed listening to those, too.

  • Not only RBshit, but Covid was against them at their peak in 2019, and RBW never tried again to ask Coachella to invite them again.


    But they still managed to be the #1 girl group with a debut US tour tho, with zero promotion.


    RBdumb saying their new World Tour is a large-scale one. Let's see if they can write at least 1 English tweet about it this time.🤣

    I don’t think anything would have made them popular internationally that’s just not something they were truly capable of. All acts that don’t hit big intentionally always complain that the companies don’t promote them. But the truth is company promotion comes after acts show some success internationally which was what was happening to BTS BP TWICE in 2016/17 and wasn’t happening for MMM and many other 3rd gen acts.

  • Their best song. I think this song captures the essence of Mamamoo the best


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  • MMM were a top group in SK during 3rd gen, had countless hits there as group and soloists, specially Hwasa, so yeah, being the number 1 isn't the only metric to success.

    And as you closed that thread, I voted for BP, but I wouldn't doubt MMM having the bigger hit, both are known groups.

    Charting is mostly about timing. BP releasing their album before the biggest comeback of the year, BTS. They have exactly 1 month to rule the charts.


    We don't know much about the June comebacks yet. If MMM won't have big competitions they could chart high or higher, but summer is usually the strongest. Except last year.😂 I don't remember if there was more than 2 hit songs in June.

  • I don’t think anything would have made them popular internationally that’s just not something they were truly capable of. All acts that don’t hit big intentionally always complain that the companies don’t promote them. But the truth is company promotion comes after acts show some success internationally which was what was happening to BTS BP TWICE in 2016/17 and wasn’t happening for MMM and many other 3rd gen acts.

    RBW barely did any PR in Korea, yet in their rookie years Grammy winning musicians wanted to work with them, the Grammys itself picked their CF song (Wanna Be Myself) and called them one of the most influential Kpop girl groups ever. HIP was a huge success in the West without any Western promo or English lyrics, not to mention English speaking members.


    So, you're right about most groups, but with MAMAMOO it's mainly about the lack of braincells at RBW. They didn't become big in SK because RBW did a good job, it's all thanks to the girls.


    RBW wanted to disband them before 2016, but "You're The Best" achieved PAK and that changed everything. Especially after the "Immortal Songs 2" performances.


    To be honest, MAMAMOO fits the Western market more than most Kpop groups, because they're not cutesy or cool, they're great singers and performers and don't fit in any typical Kpop category, they're not Idols. If they were under any of the BIG4 agencies they would be huge in the West for sure.


    Except SME, because those idiots don't know how to promote either. They're the rich RBW. 🤣

  • Their best song. I think this song captures the essence of Mamamoo the best


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    I hope we're gonna get a vocal heavy song like this in June. I wanna see them in suits again. :pepe-mommy:

  • Korea is not an emerging market for kpop.

  • Yama-Chan

    What you said about #2 being "loser" reminded me of something...


    That one time BTS V sang "LOSER" by BIGBANG and people criticized him for "shading EXID," who was in 2nd place ^^

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  • Yama-Chan

    What you said about #2 being "loser" reminded me of something...


    That one time BTS V sang "LOSER" by BIGBANG and people criticized him for "shading EXID," who was in 2nd place ^^

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    Brah I was just looking for an excuse to reference Nelly lyrics and now David has made bitching about that his entire personality for two days

  • StanGIDLE


    1A 1B MY ASSImage

    MJ is the better scorer but LeBron is tiers above him as a playmaker. Lebron's vision on court is uncanny and he can fill most roles on court. Both are elite defenders and raised the level of the teams they're playing on. I just don't think the positives that MJ has over LeBron is that much better than the skillset that LeBron has over MJ.

  • Which means you admit Mamamoo would be the biggest fish in the pond if Twice ever tried their luck again ¬‿¬


    That's not the past but the present reality :holding-back-tears:

    You continue to miss the point entirely, in predictable fashion. Here, I'll lay out the analogy for you nice and concisely. Twice are never returning to the pond. They have seen and done everything there is to possibly see and do there and have since escaped to the world's oceans, having no need to ever return or care about that little pond's current pecking order. They have... bigger fish to fry.


    Mamamoo can be Korea's favorite anchovy. I really don't care.

  • MJ is the better scorer but LeBron is tiers above him as a playmaker. Lebron's vision on court is uncanny and he can fill most roles on court. Both are elite defenders and raised the level of the teams they're playing on. I just don't think the positives that MJ has over LeBron is that much better than the skillset that LeBron has over MJ.

    You went there.

    LOOK.AT.THE.RESUME.


    It's just not close.


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    Also just use your eyes. Jordan was clearly the better and more dominant player. Nobody has ever feared LeBron. Plenty of people won during his prime--Curry, KD, Kawhi, Duncan, Dirk--just to name a few.


    Jordan owned an entire decade and he denied all the best players of his era (with the exception of Hakeem Olajuwon who won during the time MJ played baseball) from getting even a single championship.


    I could keep going, but this is a Mamamoo thread so I'll stop here :meme-erm:

  • You continue to miss the point entirely, in predictable fashion. Here, I'll lay out the analogy for you nice and concisely. Twice are never returning to the pond. They have seen and done everything there is to possibly see and do there and have since escaped to the world's oceans, having no need to ever return or care about that little pond's current pecking order. They have... bigger fish to fry.


    Mamamoo can be Korea's favorite anchovy. I really don't care.

    britney spears is making a funny face with her tongue out .

  • StanGIDLE


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    :pepe-tongue:

  • Yama-Chan theorized that those who peak at #3 are nugu. We will fight for MAMAMOO's legacy! :rant-bee:

    I mean he was right.

    Who still remember Baby VOX or whatever the 3rd biggest bg in 1st gen?


    Kpop generations are not that old so currently There're still some people remember the #3s. This leads to the illusion that some groups have "longevity" (some of them are not even 15 yo lol).


    But 10 years later or more most of 2nd gen will be nugu except WGs, Big Bang and Super Junior. And 20 years later only BTS and Blackpink will survive.

  • It’s not a Vinslow post unless there’s some soshi shade in there somewhere lol

  • Korea is not an emerging market for kpop.

    What do you mean? South Korea is still the most important market for Kpop. It's called KOREAN POP for a reason.


    Let's not make false assumptions based on the 1% of Kpop. Mainstream groups aren't as relevant as the other 99%. What I mean is that 1% might represent Kpop outside Korea the most, but in Korea, they're not the most important ones. Kpop would be dead if it's only the 3 biggest groups.


    I mentioned this already in another thread. Kpop is not just Idol music and if you ask 10 Koreans they will know BTS, BLACKPINK, TWICE etc, but their faves are not Idol groups.


    Even if we're only talking about Idols, the main market for 99% of them is Korea. That's a fact.

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