so after todays GRAMMYs, i wanted to ask you all.......

huntrix win is a win ijbol, they're the first kpop group to win a grammmy.

but aside that, i don't think kpop could ever win a main category after what happened last night

i can undertsand both wildflower and luther winning

but i don't understand either golden and apt losing in best pop duo category

it just doesn't make sense even if you go with the american centred ceremony, cause kdph is actually a korean-american collab project and apt was also a collab with a major american artist. with both songs having insane success and impact in the usa.

so yes, i have no idea what it could take for a kpop group to ever win a major award.

a miracle maybe or crazy connections/lobyying.

Personally I don’t think idol music will ever win.

KPDH was actually the best shot Korea had. More along those lines.

Movie sound tracks, or Koreans who are part of broader ensembles probably have the best shot.

Ngl when BTS got nominated for Best Music Video back in 2022 I thought maybe they'll get one someday...

we'll see...every year is a surprise after all...

I will never know why people give so mich importance to all these awards.

Some of my favourite series never won emmy, my favourite movies never even get nominated for oscar, and grammy dont even know about some of my favourite music (indian and pak sufi music). If people appreciates you and artist are getting their coins, its enough.

Also, these awards are mostly american centric, so they will always be biased towards artists who are big in american music scene and there is better music outside of america in the world whom probably anericans never even heard and thats okay

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I will never know why people give so mich importance to all these awards.

Some of my favourite series never won emmy, my favourite movies never even get nominated for oscar, and grammy dont even know about some of my favourite music (indian and pak sufi music). If people appreciates you and artist are getting their coins, its enough.

Also, these awards are mostly american centric, so they will always be biased towards artists who are big in american music scene and there is better music outside of america in the world whom probably anericans never even heard and thats okay

it’s more about the prestige of the name than anything else. the oscars, grammys, emmys are basically staples in their respective fields. being labeled an oscar-nominated film or an oscar-winning director gets you insane hype, almost like an honorary title.

like, everyone knows being a grammy winning artist doesn't mean you are better than someone who has never won one. but it's still "the grammys".

btw lbr the fact that in 2020/21 blinding lights wasn't even nominated for any category should be enough proof that grammy criteria is a complete joke. that is literally the biggest song on spotify and billboard history.

I don't even know what that Billie Eyelash song is

The thing that strikes me is that the k-pop representation at the 2026 Grammys is entirely from songs popular with children under 11.

A fair representation of the industry?

Well... maybe.

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I don't even know what that Billie Eyelash song is

it's a masterpiece, check it out

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The thing that strikes me is that the k-pop representation at the 2026 Grammys is entirely from songs popular with children under 11.

A fair representation of the industry?

Well... maybe.

well i personally think Jennie and Ruby were snubbed BAD, so...

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well i personally think Jennie and Ruby were snubbed BAD, so...

Interesting take, but I don’t think Ruby was snubbed. Personally my favourite solo album from BP, but it simply wasn’t that big in the US, where k-pop is still niche. I sort of expected the outcome yesterday, Grammys are different, sometimes they focus on artistry and sometimes they go with what charted well. Golden did amazingly in the US, but it is from an animated movie. APT was bigger in Asia than the West, Bruno was the driver for radio plays in the West, but it’s charting on Billboard was intriguing, like Global Billboard it was no 1 but Billboard Hot 100, it only peaked at 3. At the end of the day, it was nice to see Rosie perform. When it comes to Best New Artist, I honestly don’t think people tend to vote for groups, a quick Google and only 19 of the 65 winners have been duo or groups. So honestly kpop group will highly never win that category. Next year, Taylor Swift is going to dominate the Grammys, so I don’t think any kpop artist will likely get nominated, and even if they do, I don’t think they will win 🥹

Well since bts got robbed I didn’t really had any hope, the only hope was best pop duo/group but when they gave it to the song I can’t even name, I knew they wouldn’t receive other awards

I've read an interesting theory that those that vote for the grammy awards might not necessarily be the demographic of APT / Golden

Whilst those songs were certainly very popular and deserve their nominations - it might not have resonated with the people that actually do the voting

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what will it take for an actual kpop act (soloist or group) to win a GRAMMY?

cause clearly i've seen some kpop fans not accepting the GOLDEN win for Best Song Written for Visual Media (basically best original song for a movie/tv/game/visual media)as the first kpop song to ever win a grammy since its a song made for a movie by a fictional group.

so if doing it as a group and having back to back successful releases didn't get it,

if doing it solo and having your song get 2.3 billion views in a year (thats impressive) backed by who many call an 'industry darling' doesn't get it, if debuting not as kpop but being reffered to as such and having a breakout year doesnt get it........ then what will?

what do you think it'll take for an 'actual' kpop act (soloist or group) to win a grammy? or will like the grammys just create a kpop category as a "here damn....." and to futher block kpop acts from being nominated in other categories? or will we ever even see a kpop act win a grammy?

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Well, GOLDEN is a Kpop song technically, but they're not an official Kpop group so...

What will it take for an actual Kpop act to win? A LOT OF MONEY. 🤣

Let's be real, without Bruno APT would never have 2.3B views. Like, it's not even a competition. Even their MAMA performance is close to her other songs.

Rose has 5B views on her channel overall, Bruno has 24.6B. This is why we shouldn't care about numbers only quality.

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Bruno won last year, so Grammys won't give him another one, especially for a Kpop song when he's next album is coming soon and he has to win next year. 😂

GOLDEN was only nominated because of NETFLIX. Literally no one knew AJAE or any of the women behind the scenes before the movie even tho many people tried to say otherwise.

As for APT, I already said everything.

So yeah, a real Kpop song by a real Kpop artist not gonna win a Grammy anytime soon. I don't think BTS can, but they're the only one who have a little chance probably.

The Grammy's don't owe K-pop anything

Idc if a K-pop act ever wins anything at the grannies

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Well, GOLDEN is a Kpop song technically, but they're not an official Kpop group so...

What will it take for an actual Kpop act to win? A LOT OF MONEY. 🤣

Let's be real, without Bruno APT would never have 2.3B views. Like, it's not even a competition. Even their MAMA performance is close to her other songs.

Rose has 5B views on her channel overall, Bruno has 24.6B. This is why we shouldn't care about numbers only quality.

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Bruno won last year, so Grammys won't give him another one, especially for a Kpop song when he's next album is coming soon and he has to win next year. 😂

GOLDEN was only nominated because of NETFLIX. Literally no one knew AJAE or any of the women behind the scenes before the movie even tho many people tried to say otherwise.

As for APT, I already said everything.

So yeah, a real Kpop song by a real Kpop artist not gonna win a Grammy anytime soon. I don't think BTS can, but they're the only one who have a little chance probably.

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I don’t think Bruno stands much of a chance next year, it’s going to be a sweep for Taylor Swift. I’m placing my bets on her lol 😂

If Taylor sweeps I'm going into anti mode like when 1989 beat To Pimp a Butterfly.

If anyone should sweep, its Rosalia, but we all know that's not how these dumbass awards work.

Imo, the GRAMMYs are literally just for bragging rights and hold no relevance outside of that... Just like every single other award show.

Isn't it supposed to be about awarding quality songs? Yet the same few mainstream artists win it each year despite delivering mid and overplayed songs that brainless fans eat up each time.

Given the way it is, I think a certain singer might actually win it first when Grammy awards her a Lifetime Achievement Award when she is about 1,395 years old (75 legally), the second she won (the first was given by MAMA when she was 21 years old, her true age not revealed at that time).

They seem to be adamant for denying Kpop a chance to win the main awards.

If they won't even let Rose share one with Bruno Mars then we are still years away. And I wouldn't presume something as successful in the West as APT or Golden is gonna come out this year.

Kpop is too much competition for the American music industry and they don't like it.

They want Americans front and center and not pushed into the shade of ever more popular Kpop artists.

They might allow collabs with their artists to use our streaming power, but that's about it.

Having said that, I paid no attention to the Grammy's until BTS was nominated. Almost nobody in my country cares. The Oscars maybe, when something remarkable happens like with "the slap".

The Grammy's: nah.

Any fans of Rosé: don't mind too much. Her song was a big hit and cheered many people. That matters more than an American award show that favors Americans.

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If Taylor sweeps I'm going into anti mode like when 1989 beat To Pimp a Butterfly.

That one is very interesting because 1989 was Taylor transitioning into a popstar that made her the star she is today. Meanwhile, TPAB is one of the best rap albums ever with the way it covered themes that will make some uncomfortable, and still charted well. I can see why 1989 won, but the best album doesn't always win the award. I think they wnet with the move to crown Taylor as she moves more into pop music. So, I think a bit of industry politics plays a big role into this because Taylor was more marketable as a global star than Kendrick at the time.

I think the worst offence was Macklemore winning rap album of the year in 2014. Every other album was better, but yet it won.

Is Grammys about music or success/popularity? I don't know, I don't really care about awards like this, even if I can feel a bit proud if some Swedish people wins an award. The kpop/Idols industry is not really about high quality songs and vocals, but more about entertainment and "fun". Maybe that is not what the Grammys is about?

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Interesting take, but I don’t think Ruby was snubbed. Personally my favourite solo album from BP, but it simply wasn’t that big in the US, where k-pop is still niche. I sort of expected the outcome yesterday, Grammys are different, sometimes they focus on artistry and sometimes they go with what charted well. Golden did amazingly in the US, but it is from an animated movie. APT was bigger in Asia than the West, Bruno was the driver for radio plays in the West, but it’s charting on Billboard was intriguing, like Global Billboard it was no 1 but Billboard Hot 100, it only peaked at 3. At the end of the day, it was nice to see Rosie perform. When it comes to Best New Artist, I honestly don’t think people tend to vote for groups, a quick Google and only 19 of the 65 winners have been duo or groups. So honestly kpop group will highly never win that category. Next year, Taylor Swift is going to dominate the Grammys, so I don’t think any kpop artist will likely get nominated, and even if they do, I don’t think they will win 🥹

Anxiety won best MV when Zen exists.

imo, being American or an EU citizen, stepping outside the typical kpop formula or having enough musical depth to bring something fresh to typical pop song formulas. and and having media exposure that leans more mainstream. I think the first and the last points are the most crucial.

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Anxiety won best MV when Zen exists.

even manchild was ten times better than that mv .

Isnt it like common knowledge theyre purchased

I actually find it funny that people consider Golden more of a children's song than APT.

Only thing I am happy about is Alex Warren did not win . Last year they pushed his song so much. Tired of listening to him on radio. Actually Atlantic did good job promoting him and Rose as new singers. I know signing with American label gave Rose big boost for nomination. I think if kpop solo/group wants Grammy they may have to go to America's big 3.

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Anxiety won best MV when Zen exists.

Zen is cinematic and beautiful. But Anxiety deserves the nomination and win, it actually has a lot of easter eggs and massive meanings detailed throughout about mental health. It reminded me of ‘This Is America’ by Childish Gambino, where you had to look at each scene with perspective and people can interpret it in a different way. There’s artistry in that aspect.

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The thing that strikes me is that the k-pop representation at the 2026 Grammys is entirely from songs popular with children under 11.

A fair representation of the industry?

Well... maybe.

Depends whether a "fair representation" represents most of what's on offer or literally everything, because it definitely doesn't represent all of Kpop's output.

Whether or not anyone wants to admit it, APT is a childish song purposely designed to be a saccharine ear worm, Katseye's songs are noisy slop made to appeal to kids with no taste, and Golden while an okay song (that's arguably not even Kpop) was made for an animated movie whose target demographic was once again children. So yeah, there's definitely a theme going on here, but I don't think it would be fair to stereotype the entire subgenre based on that, even if it does line up with a majority of what's released.

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Kpop is too much competition for the American music industry and they don't like it.

They want Americans front and center and not pushed into the shade of ever more popular Kpop artists.

No one is being "pushed into the shade." Y'all continue to heavily overestimate the visibility of Kpop here. Kpop is not mainstream in the US and never has been. These nominations don't change that. Nor do the charting, tours, TV appearances, etc. These things are all made possible by highly dedicated fanbases and corporations who wish to exploit them for views. Kpop artists are not being supported by the general public. You could show a photo of random Asian men to your average American, tell them it's BTS, and they would be none the wiser. And then you would have to explain what BTS even is to many of them.

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Idc if a K-pop act ever wins anything at the grannies

SNSD would sweep all the awards.

I'm still shocked Apt and Golden are even considered kpop songs. It was English pop music with a Korean word here and there

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I'm still shocked Apt and Golden are even considered kpop songs. It was English pop music with a Korean word here and there

I'm convinced no one would consider Golden a Kpop song if it were made for literally any other movie. Most of the arguments that are typically made for it being Kpop would still be viable, but no one would actually bother making them, because at the end of the day they REALLY think it's Kpop because it's from a movie with "Kpop" in the title.

APT is... whatever. I'm willing to give it a pass because so many other Kpop songs are in English now, but the BP members definitely need to prove they still want to be considered Kpop as solo artists.

BTS will win the Grammy next year with a Korean song. You heard it here first

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BTS will win the Grammy next year with a Korean song. You heard it here first

Very possible tbh, their comeback will make history this year.

But i still think a member from Izone will be the one to break that barrier.

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BTS will win the Grammy next year with a Korean song. You heard it here first

we don't even know anything about the album yet.

but grammys nominating YTC was unexpected...like out of all their korean song so who knows.

Golden is a better song with a powerful meaning that uplifts and empowers everyone especially those born different so it deserved the win imo.

APT was ok, Bruno lifted it high and Rose sounded cute and beautiful at the same time and it did well which is a win too because whoever didn't know Rose and is interested now knows her.

If we talk Kpop, lets have a full song in Korean with Korean singers win. I'm sure that day will come.