Which kpop company produces the most talented idols?

YGE imo, they feel more "complete" in terms of talent bc their rappers are the best in the big4, their vocalists were/are never the worse, that's on jype and Hybe and their dancers, specially the main dancers were/are always great.

Sme loses it bc good rappers are rare there. Vocals are good, but they lip sync a lot so.

Hybe is the worst imo, but not bc all of them are bad, but overall they have the "worst" in terms of vocals in a lot of groups, but they are great dancers and have good rappers aka BTS.

Jype have great rappers aka skz, good vocals and good dancers.

So my rank is:

YGE

JYPE

SME/Hybe

And yes, this is obviously a biased and personal opinion like anyone will give theirs.

SM undoubtedly.

None of other companies have idols at the level of CSJH and Suju KRY, it's not even close.

The comments factored rap and dance skills are delusional. It's like if A has 8 at Math, 1 at Literature is still below B with 5 at Math, 3 at Literature because B seems more completed.

SM has the most talented idols and whoever says otherwise is delusional af

That's said. If we count non-idols then the best company is obviously MBK (CCM): SG Wannabe, Seeya, Davichi etc are unbeatable.

Depends on the generation

In 2nd Gen I actually think all three companies debuted fairly talented groups.

In 3rd Gen SM won by a long shot as EXO and RV were both much more talented than the counter parts in YG or JYP.

In 4th Gen idk who is more talented. Maybe HYBE as they debuted New Jeans. 4th Gen showed the declining talent pool at SM and who even knows what BG’s they debuted at this time that’s how irrelevant they are. YG had some baemon and treasure and I can’t really speak to their talents as they never succeeded enough for me to care. Same with JYP as well. Over all imo the talent in 4th Gen is considerably less than previous gens.

The darkhorse is WM. For such a tiny label, they produced the best 3rd and 4th gen performers in all of Kpop.

Everyone knows that WM's Feather Chaeyeon of Izone is the best 4th gen performer in Kpop. Her crown is unchallenged nobody come close.

But did you all know that there is another idol from WM that is the best performer in all of 3rd gen? Like Seulgi, Lisa, Momo and all the other overrated Big3 idols cant even COME CLOSE to this idol.

This is her embarassing all the GG in this special collab, including even her fellow OMG members tbh. Army should watch this and see the best GG idol performance of their best song, Boy With Luv. I timestamped right to her in all white with the red left wrist band. Or you can just go to 0:16 in the video and see her dominate in the official performance.

Im about to make another dozen "We Used to be a Proper Country" threads and this time, it wont be about Izone, it will be about Yooa and Oh My Girl. I've already made like 5 threads about this underrated queen but she deserves 50 tbh.

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funny cuz i consider suju one of the least interesting sm groups in terms of everything

Ironically, I consider Suju as the greatest sm group ever, not just in term of talent but also legacy, even above their seniors. Most of the norms in kpop were started by suju and they are still super active as both group and individually.

About the talent part, Suju K.R.Y (the first kpop subunit ever) is considered by many people as the best vocal line among idols of all gens. Other Suju members are all excel in different fields, like producing, hosting, MC, acting, etc.

By education, all Suju members have Master degrees, with 3 of them are also PhDs. Meanwhile half of idols today only graduate junior highschools.

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SM undoubtedly.

None of other companies have idols at the level of CSJH and Suju KRY, it's not even close.

The comments factored rap and dance skills are delusional. It's like if A has 8 at Math, 1 at Literature is still below B with 5 at Math, 3 at Literature because B seems more completed.

There aren't a lot of good idols with talent for rapping but they do exist, SM didn't have one till Mark and Taeyong. And I dunno what you are on when it comes to dance, idols lipsync all the time. Most of the time all they do is dance. And there is a significant difference between what Katseye can do and it's competition.

JYP because they have Day6

The way just sme stans are losing their minds here trying to prove something is already proof enough that sme isn't all that talented anymore

It's just a thread, no need to prove anything when it comes to personal opinion.

Cara must be thinking: "AKP forum is so boring these days, let's make another thread about the same thing so people can fight."

All I can say is this: Dancing and Rap are OVERRATED! The only thing I care about is VOCALS! Maybe Rap, but let's be real, at least 85% of Kpop Idols are NOT REAL RAPPERS, including YGE group members. Most of them didn't write a single line in their entire life, and all they do is act cool and talk fast. No versatility whatsoever.

If we want to talk about this properly, there isn't a single group where every member is perfect or just average in EVERY POSITION. Hence we can't say which agency produces the most talented Idols. Each group has at least 1 member who's good in the main position, but usually they don't even come close to the bare minimum in the other 2 positions: Dancing and Rap.

Also, since 4th gen pretty much every BIG4 company is lacking in everything compared to the older gens.

SME is still miles ahead of anyone vocalists wise, even tho their rookie Idols are not as good as their seniors. I don't even know what JYP can offer, to be honest, because other than NMIXX can they show anything else? As for YGE, they finally have a strong vocal group, and they're probably the first all-rounder group, but that's all. Lastly, HYBE. Well, they have some good performers, but they're lacking in two fronts, vocals and rap.

So...

SME: vocals

JYP: 1 group

YGE: 1 group

HYBE: let's say Katseye even tho they're not Kpop

If we look past beyond the mainstream, I think RBW really is the agency that produced the best vocalists and talents overall in the past 10 years. Imagine if they had people with functional brains. 🤣

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This is her embarassing all the GG in this special collab, including even her fellow OMG members tbh. Army should watch this and see the best GG idol performance of their best song, Boy With Luv. I timestamped right to her in all white with the red left wrist band. Or you can just go to 0:16 in the video and see her dominate in the official performance.

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Im about to make another dozen "We Used to be a Proper Country" threads and this time, it wont be about Izone, it will be about Yooa and Oh My Girl. I've already made like 5 threads about this underrated queen but she deserves 50 tbh.

LOL! Can't believe we agree on something finally. 😂 Yooa is one of the most underrated performers in Kpop but she's only an okay vocalist, and not a rapper.

Tbh, you picked the wrong video to showcase her skills. And she's next to an actual pro dancer.

SM in vocalists by far. or at least used to be.

YG in individual musical identity/charisma, stage presence

but in general:

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y'all overestimate the impact of companies on the "talent" of idols

at best, companies are filtering kids for the skills they want to add to a particular group

this

talent is not company reliant, they're more about developing specific skills further.

and it's also not the company's priority to debut the most talented ensemble possible with their available trainee roster

If we're happy to include Katseye, I'd argue that WayV is as strong an allrounder 4th gen group as NMIXX, if not stronger.

Honestly I think it might be Cube or they might be strong contenders. They produce quality talent but they usually fail to market their groups. If we look at CLC, I-dle, and even Lightsum they produced quality vocalist and dancers in most of their groups.

I feel produces the best talent is very tricky to determine because there are idols that seem more talented before they debut. There's regression that happens in kpop and it's most likely due to workload, so maybe the question is which company maintains talent the best.

Btw 4th/5th gen we can also put like this:

Vocals: nmixx and baemon

Dance: Itzy and lsrfm

Rap: skz

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where da sm groups at

edit: also, ateez for rap.

Which one would you put on vocals with nmixx and baemon or rap with SKZ or dance with Itzy and lsrfm??

And we are talking big4.. ateez are excellent in the 3 categories

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None.

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Imo, AESPA but they aren't that vocally impressive apart from Ningning. Winter doesn't come as close people say she does.

Yes, their fans greatly exaggerate their talent, overall Aespa is a good group, I like their vocals, but they are weak dancers and Giselle is a decent rapper. I love NingNing! She is a queen! But that's it. They aren't near talent wise the real talented sme groups imo. But that's ok, they don't need to be, they are doing great as they are. But we can't simply forget 4th and 5th gen where sme idols lack being good enough and being a representative in some areas like the ones I mentioned and act like they are still delivering the "best" idols.

Overall each group has a weak link, some has several, but idols as in individuals I think sme isn't in the top spot.

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That's probably a joke

Itzy are great dancer yes

But lsrfm dancer overall are average, they have no real strong dancer

Lsrfm strong point in dance is the fact that none of them is a super strong dancer that would make the other one looks weak

And no members who's weak enough to stand out badly

And considering that you are talking overall

Lsrfm or itzy are good dancer for girl group standard

But they aren't the top for 4th gen /5th gen especially if we're talking overall

Next to groups like skz, enhypen, riize who all have very very very strong dancers

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It's not a joke the same way you flex about Aespa vocals when they lip sync 90% of their careers and this doesn't stop you for trying something.

And you name these groups as if LSRFM and Itzy never went viral for their dancing. They are great at it and omg, shame on LSRFM for having no weak link dance wise in the group and making them look great dancing.

In the end it's personal opinion and I'll comment about the groups I actually watch, not just name random bgs bc their dance are more "difficult" when we know ggs and bgs have different dance routine and moves but this will NEVER exclude ggs superiority in shining more!

SM : Chinese Spy

YG : Drug dealer

JYP : cultists of the old man

HYBE : Payola

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SM : Chinese Spy

YG : Drug dealer

JYP : cultists of the old man

HYBE : Payola

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You chose violence, let me add something

SM: slave contracts

YG: drugs (.....)

JYP: beat trainees (2nd gen will remember)

Hybe: Hybe

SKZ is JYP so JYP (also Nmixx slay).

Btw Felix is a way better dancer than Han and easily above average. Could even make an argument Han not even the 4th best. Also worth mentioning they have no clear weak dancer either, they're steady.

On another note, the company isn't much of an indicator of talents. It's just from group to group, not company to company. One could say SM used to be a sure sign these vocalists could sing really great, but even their newer groups like Riize don't have that anymore.

The queastion should probably be who get the most out of their idols talents and develope their talents best. Overall I think it's just a big tombola who hit jackpot and finds the gems, even the bigger companies have big advantage because of more resources and popularity among the trainees. I can't say I see any big difference in general between the companies.

People trying to clown on SM stans like You bitches don't love to hate on SM 24/7

What company produces the strongest idols?

SM stans: SM have very strong idols over the past generations both male and female for example *list many diferent idols*

SM antis: Aespa sucks! Huehuehuehue! Next!

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People trying to clown on SM stans like You bitches don't love to hate on SM 24/7

What company produces the strongest idols?

SM stans: SM have very strong idols over the past generations both male and female for example *list many diferent idols*

SM antis: Aespa sucks! Huehuehuehue! Next!

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In this thread nobody is hating sme idols. Maybe relax anytime people don't worship Aespa

It was actually you guys that suddenly want to act like dance and rap doesn't matter.. or vocals matter more when sme obviously disagree seeing how much they put their idols to lip sync.

But anyways, personal opinions and if you don't agree and want to show your side you can do it like a normal person instead of fighting the invisible.

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Honestly I think it might be Cube or they might be strong contenders. They produce quality talent but they usually fail to market their groups. If we look at CLC, I-dle, and even Lightsum they produced quality vocalist and dancers in most of their groups.

I feel produces the best talent is very tricky to determine because there are idols that seem more talented before they debut. There's regression that happens in kpop and it's most likely due to workload, so maybe the question is which company maintains talent the best.

Funny you mentioned CUBE, because they're basically like RBW.

With better management they could be up there with any BIG4 agencies, because talent wise they're up there, not to mention they "produce" actual producers, writers etc as well.😅