Everyone agrees Jungkook has overcome GDragon - so is it safe to say that Jennie and Rose overcame KPop's Greatest Freeloader?

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    Have Jennie and Rose overcame KPop's Greatest Freeloader? 14

    1. Yes (4) 29%
    2. Roseanne Park, MBE, did, not Jennie (0) 0%
    3. No (5) 36%
    4. The Freeloader is irrelevant outside of Korea so a comparison is not possible. (5) 36%

    No one questions the fact that Jungkook has overcome G Dragon to become Kpop's greatest male soloist


    But, at least in Korea and some other places, some people are still questioning that Jennie and Roseanne Park, MBE, have not overcome KPop's Greatest Freeloader as the greatest soloist of Korean Pop.


    Do you think Jennie and Roseanne Park have overcome KPop's Greatest Freeloader, or not? What do they ahve to do overcome the Freeloader, who was declared #2 in the Gallup Actor Polls (#4 was Lim Yoona of SNSD) ?

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    GD is about to win three Daesangs at the MMA Awards. But sure, Jungkook totally overcame him. Hahahahaha.

    Well, the Freeloader has won quite a few incl this


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    defeating the mighty BTS at its height, but some still say Jennie and Rose overcame her.

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    Well, the Freeloader has won quite a few incl this


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    defeating the mighty BTS at its height, but some still say Jennie and Rose overcame her.

    Buddy I don't have a clue wtf you're talking about. I just found it funny how you think JK overcame GD. And I don't even like either of them lol

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    JK does have a #1 from billboard Hot 100


    Some people say JK is bigger than GD in the world so JK overcame GD


    However although Jennie and Rose are bigger in the world some people say they still have not overcome IU, which is why I wrote this

    The same reason why some say IU is still the biggest is the same reason some think GD is still the biggest.

    I think IU and GD are legends and have enough success to be considered the top acts, but ww they lose to IU, any BP member, and GD to JK.

    In SK I wouldn't say so, GD cb was enough to show his impact and how since debut he is still the top 1 there.

    But anyways, ww BTS and BP soloists are more successful.

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    The same reason why some say IU is still the biggest is the same reason some think GD is still the biggest.

    I think IU and GD are legends and have enough success to be considered the top acts, but ww they lose to IU, any BP member, and GD to JK.

    In SK I wouldn't say so, GD cb was enough to show his impact and how since debut he is still the top 1 there.

    But anyways, ww BTS and BP soloists are more successful.

    I don't think any of the BP member is bigger (I'm not talking about popularity and mainstream media) in the West than IU, because she's not only an Idol, she's also an actress, the only Idol who were nominated at the Cannes.


    BP members have better album sales, but that's all. Streaming wise, IU was the most streamed soloists till BP trio released an album, but she always takes over when she releases a new album so it's basically a tie.


    Concert wise, it's not even comparable because BP members doesn't have a solo concert yet, but IU with 100K sales and biggest solo tour in the US next to Suga is enough proof till BP members do bigger numbers.


    As for GD, his concert also breaking records, his album has more than 1M sales, but JK's sales are better probably, so he has the streaming and album sales over GD.


    But it's not really a fair competition. Rookie soloists with two Giants who do this for like 20 years almost.

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    Streaming wise, IU was the most streamed soloists till BP trio released an album, but she always takes over when she releases a new album so it's basically a tie.

    Jennie did more than 3 billion streams from spotify alone this year ....IU lifetime spotify streams is 3b...unless IU released 3 apt level hit...it will be impossible for IU to surpass bp member on streaming.

    Blackpink member daily streams is 8x more than IU.

    If you are talking about korean charts then no kpop idol will ever reached IU level of fame ( unless you are GD ).

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    Is GD really top 1 in Korea?

    What's about Lim Young Wong and Cho Yong Pil?


    Both have better sales, ranked higher in Gallup Poll, appeal to wider demographics than GD.

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    JK isn’t touching GD anywhere in Korea, China or even SEA. GD has longevity, let’s see where JK is in 10 years. I doubt he’ll be as untouchable as GD in these regions. His fans will have moved on by then and he’s nothing special, so casual fans won’t be tuned in anymore...

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    Jennie did more than 3 billion streams from spotify alone this year ....IU lifetime spotify streams is 3b...unless IU released 3 apt level hit...it will be impossible for IU to surpass bp member on streaming.

    Blackpink member daily streams is 8x more than IU.

    If you are talking about korean charts then no kpop idol will ever reached IU level of fame ( unless you are GD ).

    Google is free, may friend. The next time you want to argue with me, do some research.


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    Just a tiny reminder, she doesn't have Western collabs and not part of any mainstream group like BP members.


    She only had a comeback in 2021 and 2024, and she's always in the TOP5 every year.


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    This was the ranking till their album release btw. Just like every year when IU releases an album. Again, without Western collabs, English songs, mainstream groups or Western promo in general, and much less playlisting as well.


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    Her last comeback in 2021.


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    When I said Blackpink peaked globally after 2020 I meant it.


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    In 2022 she only released 1 Single and she's still 2nd.


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    2023, again no comeback just a Single.


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    Overall playlisting:


    IU: 150M

    Jennie: 524M

    Lisa: 595M

    Rose: 609M

    Jisoo: 226M


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    JK isn’t touching GD anywhere in Korea, China or even SEA. GD has longevity, let’s see where JK is in 10 years. I doubt he’ll be as untouchable as GD in these regions. His fans will have moved on by then and he’s nothing special, so casual fans won’t be tuned in anymore...

    Since he's more popular in Asia and the West doesn't buy albums, tell me how Jungkook's album sold three times more than GD's.

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    At least get an updated stats. :cursing:

    This is the only year where the pinks released their full albums as soloists :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

    Jennie already doubled her streams from IU's overall streams, Rose, Lisa surpassed her also :cursing:


    Stick to Melon. No one is gonna touch IU domestically. Brave of you to start WW debate against the pinks :cursing: :cursing:

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    Iu most streams song on spotify comes from collab with BTS.

    Blackpink member released full album only this year and they already surpassed her.

    JENNIE IS AT 6B+

    LISA AND ROSÈ 4.8B+

    IU 3B+

    UPDATE YOUR STATS.

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    What are you even talking about?


    Who cares about full-albums? IU had multiple years when she released ONE song!


    How the hell could I give you updated stats from 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024? 🤣


    Do you even know your own faves? Jennie debuted in 2018, Lisa and Rose in 2021 and Jisoo in 2023. Jenny had the most years to be on top but neither of them were in the TOP5 till 2024 or so.


    IU was the most streamed female Idol on Spotify and even Youtube multiple times and you wanna act as if she's a nugu in the West.


    She's doing these numbers without Western collabs, English songs, being part of a mainstream group etc. So, let's not even dare to compare them, because I'd bet my house as any of the BP members could achieve these numbers without BP.


    You know why? Because before them, you can see how many female soloists were in the TOP5 and with what numbers. IU is pretty much the only female before BP members who had 500M+ streams every year.

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    Okay, let's do this. Let's remove 570M from IU, remove more than 2 billion streams from Rose, and Jennie or even more, and a billion or so from Lisa. At least Lisa can say her most streamed songs are not collabs.


    For the record, IU's "eight" was HER own song, Suga was just a feature and producer. But hey, if BP girlies can ride on the popularity of The Weeknd and Bruno oppa etc, why IU can't do the same? Or when it's about your faves, men are allowed to help them? 😂


    IU had TWO big collab in 17 years. Blackpink members had more collabs in 2 years than how many songs they released since their debut.


    So, update your brain, please.


    Side note: I don't give a damn about their collabs, but if you come here to discredit IU because of 2 collab, let's do the same with BP members. The fact is they have massive numbers, mostly because of the Western collabs and being part of a mainstream group.


    Not to mention, IU build her career from the ground, saved her company, never did a single Western promo till 2024, and you kids want to compare her with BP members. Like, they're not even in the same league and never gonna be. Let's talk when they can still do this in their 17th year as a soloist.


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    The delusional takes :meme-life-support:

    BP the biggest group and soloists!!

    BP is the biggest group of THIS decade? Sure they are. Biggest soloists? HELL NO! It's like saying Allday Project is the biggest group. They're rookies.


    Your girls wouldn't stand a chance without Blackpink. If you want to discredit IU and other soloists whom are not from a big group, you can be delusional. We all know BLINKS are crazy and ignorant people.

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    Jennie did more than 3 billion streams from spotify alone this year ....IU lifetime spotify streams is 3b...unless IU released 3 apt level hit...it will be impossible for IU to surpass bp member on streaming.

    Blackpink member daily streams is 8x more than IU.

    If you are talking about korean charts then no kpop idol will ever reached IU level of fame ( unless you are GD ).

    Hate to defend David but he DID say


    she WAS the most streamed soloist UNTIL the blackpink members released solo albums


    so this lil rant of yours is just defensive for no reason

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    Hate to defend David but he DID say


    she WAS the most streamed soloist UNTIL the blackpink members released solo albums


    so this lil rant of yours is just defensive for no reason

    FINALLY! I'm too sick to argue about ridiculous Spotify stats, but I can't stand people who discredit IU and her massive achievement as a soloist.

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    Hate to defend David but he DID say


    she WAS the most streamed soloist UNTIL the blackpink members released solo albums


    so this lil rant of yours is just defensive for no reason

    It's kinda obvious, she had more songs while the girls had like 1, 2 songs each, but when they released more songs they EASILY surpassed IU bc they are more successful and streamed ww.

    In SK IU is a wall, but ww it's BP.

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    Bruh tell me you're kidding me? :cursing:


    It's IU's whole discography of more than 1 decade vs 1-3 songs of the pinks depends on the year you're considering. Since you pointed 2021, IU's discography vs Jennie's 1 freaking song :cursing:

    Well anyways, no need to argue. We don't need to go down memory lane from few years ago. I just decided to take part in this convo when I saw you lying "IU was the most streamed soloists till BP trio released an album, but she always takes over when she releases a new album so it's basically a tie." Even if she releases 2 full albums next year, she won't overtake the 3 pinks seeing her streaming numbers per year :cursing: :cursing:

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    It's kinda obvious, she had more songs while the girls had like 1, 2 songs each, but when they released more songs they EASILY surpassed IU bc they are more successful and streamed ww.

    In SK IU is a wall, but ww it's BP.

    I know, I'm just saying that like


    that user's defensive response was pointless because that was the one time david said a straight fact without twisting it.


    Well. At least the first part of his sentence was a straight fact. Idk about the second one, though.

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    I know, I'm just saying that like


    that user's defensive response was pointless because that was the one time david said a straight fact without twisting it.


    Well. At least the first part of his sentence was a straight fact. Idk about the second one, though.

    He brought 2021 stats, obviously blinks will laugh at it, not to disrespect IU, but the moment BP actually released their first full solo album they literally surpassed IU whole discography ww, so the point is: BP soloists are indeed the biggest k female soloists ww while IU is the biggest in SK with her legendary status there.

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    He brought 2021 stats, obviously blinks will laugh at it, not to disrespect IU, but the moment BP actually released their first full solo album they literally surpassed IU whole discography ww, so the point is: BP soloists are indeed the biggest k female soloists ww while IU is the biggest in SK with her legendary status there.

    You're better off saving your breath. He prolly thinks that because IU doesn't have the backing of a big company her success is the only one that counts.

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    Since he's more popular in Asia and the West doesn't buy albums, tell me how Jungkook's album sold three times more than GD's.

    Little 7s always bring up album sales like they mean everything, when we all know bulk buying is a thing. Fans buy multiple copies for photocards, fan signs and chart goals which shows fandom dedication, not necessarily broader public reach or long-term relevance. We see this often with boy groups: huge sales, little GP presence...


    Also, GD is already 19 years into his career and still selling 1M albums. That kind of longevity matters. Album sales show peak fandom power but staying relevant for nearly two decades is a different level entirely. We still don’t know if Jungkook’s solo career will have that kind of staying power once the BTS-era momentum fades...

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    Bruh tell me you're kidding me? :cursing:


    It's IU's whole discography of more than 1 decade vs 1-3 songs of the pinks depends on the year you're considering. Since you pointed 2021, IU's discography vs Jennie's 1 freaking song :cursing:

    Well anyways, no need to argue. We don't need to go down memory lane from few years ago. I just decided to take part in this convo when I saw you lying "IU was the most streamed soloists till BP trio released an album, but she always takes over when she releases a new album so it's basically a tie." Even if she releases 2 full albums next year, she won't overtake the 3 pinks seeing her streaming numbers per year :cursing: :cursing:

    I left AKP for almost a week, I hope you learned basic English now. 😂

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    He brought 2021 stats, obviously blinks will laugh at it, not to disrespect IU, but the moment BP actually released their first full solo album they literally surpassed IU whole discography ww, so the point is: BP soloists are indeed the biggest k female soloists ww while IU is the biggest in SK with her legendary status there.

    Having a mass streaming fandom and 300M playlisting every year doesn't make anyone the biggest soloist. You become The Biggest after you can do this for many years, like IU was the most streamed artists pretty much every year till BP solo releases. And that's what I said since the beginning. It's not my fault your fandom is uneducated.


    Like, be for real. Are you gonna call new soloists The Biggest who's gonna surpass BP members in their first solo year? No, you would never do that in a million years.


    The fact that BLINKS want to compare group members with a real soloist like IU who built her own career from the ground alone is ridiculous. IU was the most streamed soloist on Spoti till 2024 November or early December till Lisa's album.


    And as I told you all many times, streaming 10 songs is much easier than streaming 100.


    You're gonna see the numbers of your faves when they will have more than 100 songs. To be fair, it already shows because they don't hit 100M streams after a week.

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    You're better off saving your breath. He prolly thinks that because IU doesn't have the backing of a big company her success is the only one that counts.

    And where's the lie? Blackpink members would NEVER be this popular without YG and being part of a mainstream group. That's a fact, doesn't matter how much BLINKS hate to admit it.


    Which achievement is bigger or more meaningful?


    A nugu like IU starting from scratch, saving her company from bankruptcy achieving massive success in multiple front everywhere without speaking English, releasing English song, being part of a Kpop group and having huge Western collabs or a mainstream group member being popular doing all of these?


    Only blindfolded people can't (don't want to) see the obvious.😂

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