MHJ vs Employee B

a direct answer to DaisyTheGenuine

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YOU CANNOT COACH THE PERPETRATOR TO RETALIATE AGAINST THE VICTIM. No ifs, ands, buts, excuses, "it only happened after" or exceptions. Every employee is owed a fair, unbiased investigation and the freedom to speak up without fear of retaliation. These are basic, bare minimum fundamental workers rights in most developed countries. Even if the VP was found completely innocent —which again, he wasnt— she still would have absolutely been in the wrong here without question.

See, it's funny that you say this considering Min Heejin has blatantly committed numerous crimes and/or workers rights violations throughout this whole thing

• Workplace harassment (workers rights violation)
• Retaliation and covering up harassment (workers rights violation)
• Disclosing private protected information (employees salary) (workers rights violation)
• Disclosing private protected information (why her salary was reduced) (workers rights violation)
• Reducing her salary by half for no justified reason (workers rights violation)
• Lying about why her salary was reduced (defamation + workers rights violation)
• Lying about why the employee reported the VP (defamation + workers rights violation)
• Lying about her employment performance (defamation + workers rights violation)
• Leaked and mischaracterized the employees texts

Etc

And the cherry on top is much of what she's done to that employee is the same thing you all have complained about Hybe doing to her and NJZ. But now it's suddenly not an issue.

'YOU CANNOT COACH THE PERPETRATOR TO RETALIATE AGAINST THE VICTIM.'

Except the sh and wb were DISMISSED in that first notice. And the derogatory comments mhj made towards B where right AFTER that notice. Not after the later wb condemnations vp got. So you seem to really mix everything up just so what, you can put MHJ in a negative light?

They only asked her to give vp a verbal warning, which she did. She told him to not act like a bully towards B since he himself used to be bullied in hybe.

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'mhj has comitted numerous crimes'??

I have yet to see her handcuffs LOL. Still yet to see her condamned for ANY of these things you enumarated! Like where are the trials? (and not just the civil ones.) Where are the lawsuits. Where are the condamnations?? Still WAITING.

And even if they came, they are AT THIS POINT NOWHERE IN SIGHT. And if i'm ignornant then please enlighten me.

You just hate MHJ and pirrot employee's b's side of the story when that women you so fiercly defend is a PROVEN LIAR actually.

FACTUALLY, MHJ was ONLY fined for that kkts message (about retaliation) by a biased labour department where Bang has connections. A decision she challenged in a proper court which is still ONGOING and which has already gave her a partial victory.

So far the vision liar B enumarates of her time in ador CLASHES with the workplace environnement descibed and lived by countless other ador employees if not all of them. This mess around that shady employee is an ANOMALY and not a norm or a pattern. That doesn't make it false but it's still a peculiar situation within ador. And very surprisingly, that women stiring this issues is a proven LIAR.

So far, most of ador employee were treated better than in any other company. Them even chosing to lose their work and be blacklisted by a conglomerate chabol out of loyalty and trust for MHJ is honestly very REVEALING of the kind of positive, inspiring and passionated work environnement that existed in ador under MHJ leadership.

(And I absolutely refuse to believe NJs members themselves and their families will follow and show such level of trust and loyalty towards a crooked lying bully. It's just prospetuous!)

But on hybe's side?? Countless of examples like MHJ, countless of creatives scammed, used, stolen, bullied, and countless groups barred, ended, abondonned, sabotaged because they waren't bang's making.

So far that women again is NOT a reliable source because she constantly LIES. She makes FALSE claims. she lied about MHJ being against that diner to falsify her sh case against VP. Which is INSANE! Those sh case which were dismissed by every authorities. including the labor departement.

If you chose to trust that liar who you don't even know instead of mhj who has done so much good consistantly towards ador employee, including the girls, it's your choice. But don't act all holy and mighty because of that cause i chose the opposite.

I don't even know how many times i have to repeat myself, but as of now, the only PROPER lawsuit by a serious and strict legal court regarding that employee b wh case is still ONGOING. So maybe you should reserve your holy judgement about MHJ once it's done with uh??

Again if i remember well B went PUBLIC FIRST not MHJ. She could have tried to solve this privatly but chose to go public. Well she got a public response so cry me a f*cking river I guess .

MHJ had the right to explain her side. And that's why maybe we aren't hearing much about defamations and other work related lawsuits except these kkts fines, because B already made her story PUBLIC FIRST.

Now we still don't know what might happen in the future, and i myself aren't following the issue so deeply so maybe i am not in knowledge of all the elements but the only thing certain is mhj has been fined only about that kkts messages. And she is denying being guilty of whatever she is being accused of and is seeking a full victory in the ONGOING case.

That's all.

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Give it up.

not after i spend so much time writting my answer ! and not when i feel that what is said is so WRONG!

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this shouldve been in my banger thread

i agree! i was just going to post and bam i suddently couldn't .

like i spend so much effort making that answer .

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girl u dont always have to have the last word

its annoying

it's not about last word at all. it's about truth and justice .

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Oh good lord

Do you think they recommend warnings for funsies?

The workplace bullying wasn't dismissed, it just wasn't severe enough for stronger disciplinary actions.

He got a warning because they found fault with his behavior

Either way, it's still retaliation so I don't know what you think you're doing here.

They're still crimes even if the employee didn't file criminal complaints

She was fines for several things. That "partial victory" still holds her at fault and guilty of what she's been accused

Okay this is such a stupid fallacy. Abusers do not abuse everybody, bullies don't bully everybody, rapists don't rape everybody, serial killers don't kill everybody etc. other employees having a good experience doesn't invalidate one that had a bad one. People target who they know they can get away with.

And leave NewJeans out of this

She did not. The employee moved on with her life until Min Heejin publicized her texts and started lying about her to cover her own ass. The employee has the right to defend herself

As for the rest of this, I know there's no real chance of getting through to you. I quite literally showed you Min Heejin blatantly lying about slashing that woman's pay because of under performance when the reality is it was a power trip for the VP's ego. That for me—and most people with common sense and not having a weird fixation on CEOs— was enough.

I'm sorry if it makes me a hater but I'm going to believe the employee who actually had proof of her claims and has been validated at every step instead of waiting for the nonstop appeals of a lying ex-CEO and VP because they keep getting found at fault

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yes they found a fault but the case was dismissed. a verbal warning IS NOT A CASE. a case needs more substance and more serious claims.

and min did advise the vp to behave better with b.

'They're still crimes even if the employee didn't file criminal complaints'

sure jane... a crime needs to be established on facts, through proper investigation and potential lawsuits because one side's claims doesn't determine the legal outcome. if she was so sure of her claims, B would be suing Min to the moon looking at how far she is willing to go for some kkt messages.

you enumarated quite a f*cking list really for her to be mad about.

'That "partial victory" still holds her at fault and guilty of what she's been accused'

apparently, we don't know to which extent and in what context. evenmore so because the case is NOT OVER.

you are right on the first part, i didn't deny that in my previous post, but that women was a higher up employee. there are countless more lower employee in hybe. i don't think she was 'a weakling type' that was targeted. but she was definitly an anomaly, who strangely happend to also be a proven pathological liar at the same time.

'She did not. The employee moved on with her life until Min Heejin publicized her texts and started lying about her to cover her own ass. The employee has the right to defend herself'

Now either you are lying or either a part of my memory has been obliviated cause i don't remember mhj writing about B on her insta on a random day. it was the OPPOSITE. Min was the one who answered B's public attack!

Honestly, yama is right, there is no way i can expect a fair take from you about Min. Because you are totally inversing reality! That should be enough for me to also stop engaging with you on the matter.

'I quite literally showed you Min Heejin blatantly lying about slashing that woman's pay because of under performance when the reality is it was a power trip for the VP's ego.'

I think it was both. Min thought B wasn't adequate for the post for various reasons and because she wasn't a reliable communicator. Then V later on explained his reasons for the cut but how would Min be aware of it? Why are you so kin on accusing her of being a liar or VP's own personal choices? Do you have he proof she was aware of it? And even if she was how does it matter in the end if she thinks HER reasons of cuting B salary down were VALID.

It basically meant she didn't want to work with B because she didn't thaught she was qualified for the post or a reliable asset in her company. Period.

Proof of her claims? Lol. Who can even tell truth from lies from her?? If she had so many 'proofs' she would be at the tribunal suing Min to no end! None of the previous investigations were even that serious. The real lawsuit started at the court which did gave mhj a partial victory and which is still ONGOING.

You just chose to believe whaever vision of reality suited your perception of said persons depending on your strong bias against Min. And i don't want to engage further on either.

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Yeah, this a good summary of an unnecessary 2 day debate. Google is free, you are literally on a kpop news site. Read dates, it ain't hard

As for the rest, last comment means last comment. This user has moved onto last minute bo6 camo grinds and refuses to be downed behind Min Heebully.

Your appeal, just like the witch's, is denied

First and foremost, even without googling sh*t, the one who made the first claims was B .

Min's response was a ... response. Now after some googling here's the result :

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Min Hee-jin, the CEO of ADOR, has publicly responded to accusations made by a former employee, identified as "B," who claimed to have been mistreated after reporting sexual harassment by a senior executive.

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Even though I issued a formal statement regarding Dispatch's false reporting, the injustices were not resolved, so I had no choice but to disclose the related KakaoTalk conversation through my Instagram story to clarify my position. However, at midnight on the 9th, B posted a statement that coincidentally aligned with Dispatch’s claims, and today, B also gave an interview on JTBC. I can no longer keep quiet about what I have endured and must now share my position on these matters.

source: https://www.allkpop.com/articl…er?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Wrap it up Daisy .

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Might wanna reread that quote champ

b was the first to make these public claims through dispatch. yes. what is hard to understand??

mhj's public answer, was an answer. so you either lied or omitted that essential part. now what?

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Min Hee-jin, the CEO of ADOR, has publicly responded to accusations made by a former employee, identified as "B," who claimed to have been mistreated after reporting sexual harassment by a senior executive.

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