BoA vs Min Hee Jin

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i don't think anybody is denying that

You literally said BoA is only Asia and MHJ is West, but that's not true.

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You literally said BoA is only Asia and MHJ is West, but that's not true.

i meant the part about mhj owing her career to boa

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ANYONE who vote for MHJ should be banned instantly.

Honestly, this whole thread should be erased! It's one of, if not the most disrespectful comparison ever!

MHJ is not worth mentioning in the same sentence with BoA's shadow, let alone with BoA!

Come on, chin. She is one half of the force that drove SM to where they are today. Without her, all those concepts for SNSD, Shinee, f(x), and Red Velvet, we'd have hardly taken notice of her. She and LSM were the driving force behind SM from around 2007 to 2020. To deny her is to deny those groups of the images that made them who they are.

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Voted Boa. Not that I care about her, but MHJ is the Antichrist.

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Come on, chin. She is one half of the force that drove SM to where they are today. Without her, all those concepts for SNSD, Shinee, f(x), and Red Velvet, we'd have hardly taken notice of her. She and LSM were the driving force behind SM from around 2007 to 2020. To deny her is to deny those groups of the images that made them who they are.

Like I said, if you take out BoA, SM wouldn't exist today. Lee Sooman said it this himself!

MHJ did many great concepts, but she's just a creative director, she never created anything else, not even a single song. Concepts alone don't sell a group. That's why I said, MHJ alone wouldn't survive in this industry, but BoA as teen saved SME.

If anything, Kenzie was a much bigger force at SM and for their Idols than MHJ. She produced and still produces so many hits I can't even count.

BoA leaves an impressive legacy: the first kpop idol to break into Japan, but as time goes on I wonder how iconic she is. Simply because it feels like the peak of her career was relatively short lived. 2002-2007 or so. And she has struggled for relevancy since then imo. As time goes on, is she still ranked among the jpop greats in Japan? I feel like in Korea she isn’t as iconic as say Lee Hyori.

Could BOA still do music without a huge company behind her?

Could MHJ still do her thing without a huge company behind her?

The answer is obvious.

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BoA leaves an impressive legacy: the first kpop idol to break into Japan, but as time goes on I wonder how iconic she is. Simply because it feels like the peak of her career was relatively short lived. 2002-2007 or so. And she has struggled for relevancy since then imo. As time goes on, is she still ranked among the jpop greats in Japan? I feel like in Korea she isn’t as iconic as say Lee Hyori.

PLEASE, for the love of God, if you don't know anything about BoA, stop talking! Lee Hyori said it herself that BoA is the biggest soloists Kpop has ever seen!

Her peak was "short-lived"? What are you on?

Girl, BoA sold 10M records overall in her career, no other soloists sold that many in the history of Kpop! Not to mention, she's still in the TOP5 "Highest pre-orders by a K-Pop female soloist" with THREE albums! After 20 YEARS!

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PLEASE, for the love of God, if you don't know anything about BoA, stop talking! Lee Hyori said it herself that BoA is the biggest soloists Kpop has ever seen!

Her peak was "short-lived"? What are you on?

Girl, BoA sold 10M records overall in her career, no other soloists sold that many in the history of Kpop! Not to mention, she's still in the TOP5 "Highest pre-orders by a K-Pop female soloist" with THREE albums! After 20 YEARS!

I get she’s still your number one.

I think I am reading too much into the phrase “icon” in the thread title. From the sidelines it seems like she was massive in Japan for a couple of years (according to the ol’ Wikipedia her sales were declining sharply from 2007), then she tried and failed to make much of an impact in the US (although Eat You Up is an absolute banger imo), and then had a lacklustre comeback in Korea in 2010 and fizzled out really (plus had a drug scandal which didn’t help her image).

So like I said, it’s a great legacy. 10 million albums sold as you say (I bought one of those 10 million too). But I think she struggled to maintain her career in the long run so that’s why I question her “Icon” status.

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I get she’s still your number one.

I think I am reading too much into the phrase “icon” in the thread title. From the sidelines it seems like she was massive in Japan for a couple of years (according to the ol’ Wikipedia her sales were declining sharply from 2007), then she tried and failed to make much of an impact in the US (although Eat You Up is an absolute banger imo), and then had a lacklustre comeback in Korea in 2010 and fizzled out really (plus had a drug scandal which didn’t help her image).

So like I said, it’s a great legacy. 10 million albums sold as you say (I bought one of those 10 million too). But I think she struggled to maintain her career in the long run so that’s why I question her “Icon” status.

Yes, she's still my "Number One". 😂

Icon means, you're on top for decades (it's not about charting btw, because no one can top charts for 25 years), and BoA still the biggest Korean artists in Japan. I mean, not even groups can come close to her. In Japan alone, she sold over 10M. TWICE is probably the best-selling girl group with 4.15M.

The fact that she's still the best-selling Idol after 25 years, means she is an ICON! You can't question that! Most Idols don't have a career longer than 7 years, but she's still active and popular after 25! If that's not being an Icon, I don't know what is.

This was the TOP10 on Oricon's history! The list was made in 2021 so it's not up-to-date! BoA is now the #1 with 10M, as I said above!

Top 100 Best-selling Korean Artists on Oricon (only Japanese releases) - KOREAN SALES

• 1. TVXQ! — 8,084,832 copies sold
• 2. BoA — 7,801,076 copies sold
• 3. BTS — 4,681,519 copies sold
• 4. TWICE — 3,419,662 copies sold
• 5. KARA — 3,245,882 copies sold
• 6. Girls' Generation — 2,715,284 copies sold
• 7. 2PM — 1,868,437 copies sold
• 8. SHINee — 1,716,009 copies sold
• 9. SEVENTEEN — 1,634,534 copies sold
• 10. Kye Eun Sook — 1,634,269 copies sold

David33 (That was the joke I was making 😇)

Alright, I’ll concede. She can keep her icon status for now (although I would still vote Lee Hyori if the two were pitted against each other).

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David33 (That was the joke I was making 😇)

Alright, I’ll concede. She can keep her icon status for now (although I would still vote Lee Hyori if the two were pitted against each other).

What joke, the number 1? I know that's why I included the MV.😂

We've seen Hyori and BoA competing with each other in their prime, and it was usually BoA on top. Hyori isn't even active as a soloist anymore, so there's no point comparing them in this era.

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What joke, the number 1? I know that's why I included the MV.😂

I know you know. I’m just making sure you knew I knew. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I know you know. I’m just making sure you knew I knew. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

LOL!