From what I saw "armys" are focusing in Jimin this year so maybe bc they wanted Jimin to win??
But regardless I could see this same issue in the blink fandom 
in the end the ones complaining that a member of their supposed bias group won something that should be "give" to another member is not a fan of the group. It's either an akgae or solo stan.
Its because there are people who thinks he has already achieved enough success and that he's the favorite which lead to resentments. Also, there are people who think he might leave the group to pursue solo career because he's has talked about wanting to be recognized outside of BTS. Real ARMYs would support and celebrate each members' accomplishments
I quite literally don't understand the logic or reason behind their dissatisfaction with a member of their favorite group winning an award. It just doesn't compute. Can someone explain this lore to me, because I could never fathom me or anyone in my fandoms being upset if a member of Mamamoo or NewJeans won an award
Hell, MooMoos saw that happen a ton with Hwasa during the peak of her popularity. There was never any friction or tension.
I just don't get it.
One Rainy day long long time ago, on December 31th 2017 and two allkpop forums back.....
From what I saw "armys" are focusing in Jimin this year so maybe bc they wanted Jimin to win??
But regardless I could see this same issue in the blink fandom
Its because there are people who thinks he has already achieved enough success and that he's the favorite which lead to resentments. Also, there are people who think he might leave the group to pursue solo career because he's has talked about wanting to be recognized outside of BTS. Real ARMYs would support and celebrate each members' accomplishments
What a bizarre and toxic mindset
This is literally a "you mean OUR award, comrade" meme happening in real life.
In the long and storied history of music groups, idol or not, I can't think of a single one where all individual awards are divvied up evenly so that every member has equivalent success and nobody stans out too much
Aiya
probably just solo stans being annoying as always 
I was just about to call this out.
I'm obviously not unfamiliar with akgae behavior. It's THIS kind of behavior I find puzzling. It seems organized by prominent individuals in the fandom
Armys are entering their solo stan phase, much like Blinks, after the enlistment. I don’t know if anyone’s noticed, but from what I see, a lot of them have turned into solo stans since the 2nd chapter begin. Some are still in denial, keeping that little '7' in their usernames, but you can see them throwing subtle shade at members who aren’t their bias. So, I guess this is what happened now. Jk is the most popular but somehow not the fandom’s favorite or prioritise from what I see, if that makes sense. Same goes with Taehyung. Luckily, they both have really strong individual fanbases to give fully support to them.
Armys are entering their solo stan phase, much like Blinks, after the enlistment. I don’t know if anyone’s noticed, but from what I see, a lot of them have turned into solo stans since the 2nd chapter begin. Some are still in denial, keeping that little '7' in their usernames, but you can see them throwing subtle shade at members who aren’t their bias. So, I guess this is what happened now. Jk is the most popular but somehow not the fandom’s favorite or prioritise from what I see, if that makes sense. Same goes with Taehyung. Luckily, they both have really strong individual fanbases to give fully support to them.
I remember when he would lead the voting then he would lose it because ARMYs would switch up. This is the reason he don't win awards based on voting since they know he'll something else anyway so they vote for other members
ARMYs love to deny it, but the biggest fanbases are all Jimin solo stans, and the only work for him, with occasional /minimal focus on rap line. The hate for Jungkook is nothing new, even before he started as a solo, the animosity towards him has been notorious, you don't have to be a solo to see it. And with his success, the hate and defamation campaigns has exceeded all limits.
Just yesterday Jimin stans were posting proofs on DC Gallery about voting for another artist, justo so that Jungkook couldn't win, even when there was no other BTS member nominated. With the result today, they are bitter because all they did to prevent him for wining didn't work.
I cannot say that all ARMYs hate him, but the fanbases that control the fandom, have been trying to diminish his popularity through the years; don't know if they are afraid of him going solo or just want for other member to be the successful one. Last year when we had to vote in awards, they told everyone not to vote for Jungkook because it was the opportunity for other member to win and that we could vote for him this year (For example, last year he has wining in a voting and when big fanbases saw that, they made everyone vote for Namjoon and he ended up losing it), and again this year they decided that he was too successful already so fans should vote for other members. Guess it will never be his year, because other members have the priority in ARMYs minds.
probably just solo stans being annoying as always
ARMYs love to deny it, but the biggest fanbases are all Jimin solo stans, and the only work for him, with occasional /minimal focus on rap line. The hate for Jungkook is nothing new, even before he started as a solo, the animosity towards him has been notorious, you don't have to be a solo to see it. And with his success, the hate and defamation campaigns has exceeded all limits.
Just yesterday Jimin stans were posting proofs on DC Gallery about voting for another artist, justo so that Jungkook couldn't win, even when there was no other BTS member nominated. With the result today, they are bitter because all they did to prevent him for wining didn't work.
I cannot say that all ARMYs hate him, but the fanbases that control the fandom, have been trying to diminish his popularity through the years; don't know if they are afraid of him going solo or just want for other member to be the successful one. Last year when we had to vote in awards, they told everyone not to vote for Jungkook because it was the opportunity for other member to win and that we could vote for him this year (For example, last year he has wining in a voting and when big fanbases saw that, they made everyone vote for Namjoon and he ended up losing it), and again this year they decided that he was too successful already so fans should vote for other members. Guess it will never be his year, because other members have the priority in ARMYs minds.
This also happens to Lisa in the blink fandom. It's exactly the same and it's so obvious.
ARMYs love to deny it, but the biggest fanbases are all Jimin solo stans, and the only work for him, with occasional /minimal focus on rap line. The hate for Jungkook is nothing new, even before he started as a solo, the animosity towards him has been notorious, you don't have to be a solo to see it. And with his success, the hate and defamation campaigns has exceeded all limits.
Just yesterday Jimin stans were posting proofs on DC Gallery about voting for another artist, justo so that Jungkook couldn't win, even when there was no other BTS member nominated. With the result today, they are bitter because all they did to prevent him for wining didn't work.
I cannot say that all ARMYs hate him, but the fanbases that control the fandom, have been trying to diminish his popularity through the years; don't know if they are afraid of him going solo or just want for other member to be the successful one. Last year when we had to vote in awards, they told everyone not to vote for Jungkook because it was the opportunity for other member to win and that we could vote for him this year (For example, last year he has wining in a voting and when big fanbases saw that, they made everyone vote for Namjoon and he ended up losing it), and again this year they decided that he was too successful already so fans should vote for other members. Guess it will never be his year, because other members have the priority in ARMYs minds.
i think bang and his hybe minion are probably in control of these fandom centers. to me, it tells me that there is probably an ambiguous relationship between bang and JK. (obviously it's pretty hostile between v and bang too)
but this bang vs jk dynamics are a bit more complex. it's a mix of favoritism but also jalousy. bang doesn't want jk to get 'too' big, maybe even bigger than bts and again threaten HIS supremacy. and then maybe to leave? or just not depend on him... or not even, to just overshadow the pseudo 'real bts mastermind main character' that bang probably thinks he is.
jk is quite handsome, talented and popular, so i wouldn't be surprised if bang is half seething with jaleasy with him, maybe even wishing HE was JK. Younger, more famous, more handsome, more talented. Getting the girls he want without having to pay them 
... (bruh that one's nasty but so f*cking real tho...)
it's like Jk is a bang persona or smth, but bang can NEVER be JK. JK is his own person and i think he hates that!
so he likes to use other members to limit jk growth within bts and also hybe. but he also f*cking LOVES using JK to step on everyone else in the industry. Duh. Hence the peculiar vicious dynamics.
I truly wonder what will JK decide... i think he's gonna stay but im not completely sure... who know's what's going on behind the doors?
PS: it's all just a theory of course, but im quite good at reading these kind of dynamics; i guessed everything right about bang and mhj dynamics before this war even started this year; all back to when he directly put JK against rookie NJs during get up era;
From what I saw "armys" are focusing in Jimin this year so maybe bc they wanted Jimin to win??
But regardless I could see this same issue in the blink fandom
what's he gonna win? did he even hit top 100 melon
How pleasing to be an ARMY yet not notice or be aware of this shit at all.
This. There isn’t a day that goes by that some in this fandom isn’t upset or feeling slighted. It’s fucking redundant and boring.
Congratulations JK and to all the winners.
Display Morei think bang and his hybe minion are probably in control of these fandom centers. to me, it tells me that there is probably an ambiguous relationship between bang and JK. (obviously it's pretty hostile between v and bang too)
but this bang vs jk dynamics are a bit more complex. it's a mix of favoritism but also jalousy. bang doesn't want jk to get 'too' big, maybe even bigger than bts and again threaten HIS supremacy. and then maybe to leave? or just not depend on him... or not even, to just overshadow the pseudo 'real bts mastermind main character' that bang probably thinks he is.
jk is quite handsome, talented and popular, so i wouldn't be surprised if bang is half seething with jaleasy with him, maybe even wishing HE was JK. Younger, more famous, more handsome, more talented. Getting the girls he want without having to pay them
so he likes to use other members to limit jk growth within bts and also hybe. but he also f*cking LOVES using JK to step on everyone else in the industry. Duh. Hence the peculiar vicious dynamics.
I truly wonder what will JK decide... i think he's gonna stay but im not completely sure... who know's what's going on behind the doors?
PS: it's all just a theory of course, but im quite good at reading these kind of dynamics; i guessed everything right about bang and mhj dynamics before this war even started this year; all back to when he directly put JK against rookie NJs during get up era;
BangPD never once credited Jungkook. That man had the audacity to ask why JK didn't invite him to his album showcase. Doesn't have the balls to ask himself.
Jungkook was the first member to hit 2 billion streams and have 3 songs that reached billion streams but BigHit waited until Jimin's Who reached 1 billion to post and share an article.
BangPD never once credited Jungkook. That man had the audacity to ask why JK didn't invite him to his album showcase. Doesn't have the balls to ask himself.
Jungkook was the first member to hit 2 billion streams and have 3 songs that reached billion streams but BigHit waited until Jimin's Who reached 1 billion to post and share an article.
bang is definitly very proud (like JK was an extension of him or smth) but also very very jealous and insecure about JK 
. hence the wierd stuff that keeps on happening to him within the fandom and so ... he just can't give credits to anybody but himself. he's a narcissist and a sociopath.
Display Morei think bang and his hybe minion are probably in control of these fandom centers. to me, it tells me that there is probably an ambiguous relationship between bang and JK. (obviously it's pretty hostile between v and bang too)
but this bang vs jk dynamics are a bit more complex. it's a mix of favoritism but also jalousy. bang doesn't want jk to get 'too' big, maybe even bigger than bts and again threaten HIS supremacy. and then maybe to leave? or just not depend on him... or not even, to just overshadow the pseudo 'real bts mastermind main character' that bang probably thinks he is.
jk is quite handsome, talented and popular, so i wouldn't be surprised if bang is half seething with jaleasy with him, maybe even wishing HE was JK. Younger, more famous, more handsome, more talented. Getting the girls he want without having to pay them
it's like Jk is a bang persona or smth, but bang can NEVER be JK. JK is his own person and i think he hates that!
so he likes to use other members to limit jk growth within bts and also hybe. but he also f*cking LOVES using JK to step on everyone else in the industry. Duh. Hence the peculiar vicious dynamics.
I truly wonder what will JK decide... i think he's gonna stay but im not completely sure... who know's what's going on behind the doors?
PS: it's all just a theory of course, but im quite good at reading these kind of dynamics; i guessed everything right about bang and mhj dynamics before this war even started this year; all back to when he directly put JK against rookie NJs during get up era;
It's quite obvious there are some fanbases that are directly linked with the company and staffs, proof of that is Jimin stans knew about Jungkook and Jimin military buddy system way before there was any news about that, same as Jungkook working in the military kitchen, which he confirmed weeks later. They also knew about Jimin releasing a 2nd. album after enlisting (everyone suspected it, but they had the exact release date), so they were sorting out all kind of resources months before.
Jungkook has always said that he is not the typical idol and that he is really difficult to handle, he doesn't like when people tell him how to act, think or react to something, so I'm pretty sure, that's something the company doesn't like. For example, the Weverse lives that he made last year where clearly not something that pleased the company too much, but he still went ahead with them; he closed his IG with the number of followers that he had without giving a second thought; even in his last solo album showcase in Korea, RM asked JK why he didn't invite Bang PD to the event.
It was unbelievable for me that the company was releasing reports about him having the less potential between the members, when he is one of the most popular and talented ones; so, it will not surprise me if they were feeding him with that mentality to try to control him. Last year Bang PD wasn't the one that pushed him to start his solo career, it was because Scooter who saw his potential, and after Jungkook started noticing how good results Seven had, he started gaining confidence which led him to want to release his solo album.
Some members could be more attached to the company, but since the first contract renewal discussions, the members talked about JK and Taehyung not being sure about renewing and being one of the last ones to agree to continue.
JK is really a free soul, so you can tell his decision to continue with the company all this year is strongly linked to his love and commitment with BTS, ARMY and his love for music, but you never know what could happen after his military service and the preexistent agreements they made as a group. I wish for the best for everyone, but I really hope they and specifically JK starts thinking more on himself and what he wants as an individual. The fandom behavior is becoming really toxic and it's time for the fans to be aware about BTS members being adults and not entertainment puppets, and to know that everyone at some point will take a different path (even when they continue working in group stuff sometimes), and not all of them will have the same success.
There's no day without an angry ARMY. Nothing new here. I mean, even today, I saw some ARMY guys attacking Cristiano Ronaldo and Mr Beast or whatever his name is, because he said the most viewed VIDEO on youtube was something, but ARMY said it's a BTS music video, and they didn't realize he was talking about a NORMAL VIDEO, not MUSIC VIDEOS!🤣
Also, this, they're attacking this acc as well and Aespa stans, because they can't read.😅
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The @@@0bef114b-d1ce-43df-acdf-32dbdbd2e99f@@@ members are great at always highlighting each member's strengths and insisting that each member is indispensable. They show a strong team bond consistently through the years, while also being vulnerable about rocky paths.
That somehow translated to: "All 7 need an equal amount of success and whoever gets too big needs to be torn down" in the fandom.
That is not what the members have ever demonstrated in their content. In fact, they show up in each other's solo content.
I may not bias Jungkook as much anymore, because I didn't click with his solo content fully. But I hate the way he's been torn down since the solo era started by so-called ARMYs.
And I'd call myself a casual because I don't feel as dedicated as other users here, but it's still upsetting to see.
I also don't like how hate then gets thrown back at Jimin or other members. I honestly appreciate ARMYs here. Everyone shows up a little extra for their bias and that's okay. But I've seen more love toward all 7 here than outside the forum.
see I told you they are annoying 
Probably resentment
I bet lot of them are afraid that since HYBE id money hungry
If Jungkook become too big HYBE will in the future focus more on him and don't put as much effort in their bias stuff like they do with jungkook stuff
Or maybe they are afraid that he might become too big and feel that he's at a point of his career when he doesn't need the BTS tag attach to his name and leave
And maybe they try to avoid this
BangPD never once credited Jungkook. That man had the audacity to ask why JK didn't invite him to his album showcase. Doesn't have the balls to ask himself.
Jungkook was the first member to hit 2 billion streams and have 3 songs that reached billion streams but BigHit waited until Jimin's Who reached 1 billion to post and share an article.
Just to add some morcels to blind blissfull army
Hybe not posting about Jungkook HUUUUGE music records and awrds wins is comical at this point. Skipping Billions streams that you talk about already... no info about Documentary taht comes out in 3 days! No articles about his Vinyl sales record, sold out exhibitions, documentary movie records, BBM nominations (they only mentioned 2, the same he shares with Jimin, what a surpise), his MMA win.
Do I talk about constant credits mistakes. Jungkook probably doesn't have a single release on any music platform that didn't have messed up credits. Ever. And those mistakes cost him charts records, several times. In Korea and abroad. Hybe forgat that Jungkook sand Dreeams. For WHOLE YEAR they coudn't put hiim on stage to sing WORLD CUP song even once???
And the peak hatred for that fat lump was when he dare to go on stage. Pick award for some bullshite to SEVEN playing in the backgroud and talk ho HE made in a hit. TF?!
And to army saying. They are Big Hit they have shares. CHECK HOW MANY clowns. Compare accual amount of money to other shareholders and that fat lump. It's less then 0.1%. The hell are you going to do with that?
While I don’t disagree that you can talk about whatever the hell you like, I also can see why fortuna would say this - I said much the same, as did merribelle. I’m ARMY and you know or see or comment on more about the idiots in my fandom than I do… There is a certain joy in curating your timeline and zoning out the sh*t.
I genuinely don’t think any fandom is without weird solo stans, particularly at times of group hiatus like this.
rather im curious
first I saw the thread about Taehyung giving hints about leaving the company
and now one about Jungkook getting hate?
where you getting your information from? solo ARMY fanbases?
If you want to know,
they all say the same thing
and they do not even represent the voices of the people
they so strongly want to save from their big bad "ARMY" fandom and the company
as if bts cant save themselves
An example :
Taehyung recently posted about meeting ARMY as BTS in 2025
and some of his solo fanbases cut that part out in their translations. Why ? Because it doesnt quite fit the narrative that they've spun and spread about him wanting OUT.
So if you find "armys" hating on bts members then they arent really OT7 armys
they are either ot6 with a weird hatred for one member (these types are rare I think)
or solo stans who do not even stan BTS btw they prob stan other groups, but instead have this weird attachment to the bias that they had when they were stanning bts. (much more frequent in my opinion)
The rest of us follow OT7 fanbases and do not tolerate the spreading of any false narratives on our TL
that's why you'll see us unable to understand just what you mean when you make these claims?
cause "army" for us loves all 7 i.e all of bts and we are always celebrating every member's achievements.
OMG! Crying! Do they!? Literally never seen that. I guess because there’s a famous baby picture of him dressed up in a cow outfit and he recreated it as an adult. That is awful and weirdly specific and hysterical all at the same time.
While I don’t disagree that you can talk about whatever the hell you like, I also can see why fortuna would say this - I said much the same, as did merribelle. I’m ARMY and you know or see or comment on more about the idiots in my fandom than I do… There is a certain joy in curating your timeline and zoning out the sh*t.
I genuinely don’t think any fandom is without weird solo stans, particularly at times of group hiatus like this.
The reaction to a simple and direct question was over the top. Who else am I going to ask but the people who know the fandom the best? The concept of a fandom actively upset or even apparently sabotaging the efforts of a member of their group is foreign to me.
And if you're referring to me specifically, I know more about the idiots in your fandom for a very obvious reason we don't need to get into here. We both know what that reason is.
The reaction to a simple and direct question was over the top. Who else am I going to ask but the people who know the fandom the best? The concept of a fandom actively upset or even apparently sabotaging the efforts of a member of their group is foreign to me.
And if you're referring to me specifically, I know more about the idiots in your fandom for a very obvious reason we don't need to get into here. We both know what that reason is.
Yama, dude. Do what you want. But just also be aware that there are certain people out there who strive for peace and enjoyment, myself included, and a large section of ARMY is like that. Not everyone is always coming for you personally so you don’t *always* need to be on the attack, much as you think it might be deserved… and there is no harm in saying - as a point of interest - that one might find it a bit unusual for someone who is not even in one’s fandom to be more up-to-date with the ins and outs of it than one is oneself.
Yama, dude. Do what you want. But just also be aware that there are certain people out there who strive for peace and enjoyment, myself included, and a large section of ARMY is like that. Not everyone is always coming for you personally so you don’t *always* need to be on the attack, much as you think it might be deserved… and there is no harm in saying - as a point of interest - that one might find it a bit unusual for someone who is not even in one’s fandom to be more up-to-date with the ins and outs of it than one is oneself.
Why do I need awareness in the context of this thread? I didn't even tag ARMY, so anyone who cared to share was welcome to provide their insights as a fan, and anyone who doesn't want to give their time or energy to it didn't and still doesn't have to.
Also, the person in question DID aggressively come for me personally, so again, in the context of this specific thread, I'm not sure why you're directing your attention to me, when I had a very reasonable reaction to some hostile fan telling me to mind my own business.
And lastly, I made this thread precisely BECAUSE I am not up to date nor do I generally care about what's happening in your fandom. This specific issue was getting a lot of discussion outside AKP, so I came here to better understand why it's happening.
Trust me, nobody here is a better instigator than me. If I wanted to stir up trouble and provoke ARMY, this thread would've been handled way differently.
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