Impactful Debut : ITZY vs ILLIT

  • Which one 35

    1. ITZY (22) 63%
    2. ILLIT (13) 37%

    we need more voice and opinion on which group have more impacctful debut so far !

    which debut do you think are bigger, and way more huge & massive :melon_think:

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    (p/s): im not downplaying ILLIT they're definitely have a big debut era even bigger than IVE. cant help but wonder how well are they actually doing right now so im using ITZY as parameter, since ITZY have one of the biggest debut era :eyes:

  • It's too early to compare.


    Wait for ILLIT to finish climbing and stabilize, and we'll see where the chips fall.


    If it's anywhere near PAK and Billboard Hot 100, they win easily

  • Definitely Itzy by a mile.


    Yes hybe girl groups can now debut with high streams but that’s the result of the changing times rather than illit having impact.


    Even nugu New gen groups have more streams than say the biggest debuts of earlier years but this doesn’t make their debuts more “impactful” to kpop than the earlier ones


    There’s nothing exciting, new or interesting from ILLIT.


    Dalla Dalla was much more impactful it will always be talked about for ushering in a new gen regardless of how Itzy performs in the future.


    I can’t blv this even has to be a question lol.

  • But...Itzy didn't.


    They came and third generation groups remained dominant.


    2022 was the year the 4th generation took over, and you can just look at year end charts and see the very obvious handing of the baton to the next generation.


    From 2016 to 2021, it's almost entirely third gen groups, and then in 2022, it's nothing but 4th gen groups at the top.


    What did Itzy usher in? I'd really like to know. I remember third gen girl group stan sentiments during that time, and it still felt like 3rd gen would last forever back then.

  • Don’t try to change history Yama. Lol.

  • No one agreed if g idle was 3rd or 4th gen at the time (and still don't). Everyone agreed itzy was 4th gen and still think so

    I think it's pretty obvious they're fourth gen.


    MMM, RV, Twice, BP, GFriend and most of their peers all debuted between 2014 and 2016. GIDLE didn't debut until 2018. Feels silly to include them in the same generation.


    Those groups all peaked in Korea in the last decade. GIDLE is peaking in 2022-2024.


    :pepe-shrug:


    Don’t try to change history Yama. Lol.

    :pepe-shrug: That's just the way it was

  • In 2019 it was impossible to do such numbers for a debutant on Spotify. But itzy did have stronger YouTube stats?

    Kcharts wise dalla dalla is one of the most successful debut song. Illit has a long way to go to compare to that. But not impossible if magnetic holds up.

    Now when it comes to members and performance itzy absolutely takes it. Itzy girls easily left a bigger impression than illit girls


    Itzy started the new gen because people realized they would never be able to compete with the top 3rd gen groups. Nothing else. Very similar to why 5th gen started. 4th gen was extremely underwhelming success wise until the release of next level in 2021.

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