KPop's greatest imponderable - why they treated the Conqueror of the World and a domestic singer equally in K-O-R-E-A?

    If you had an act which had conquered the world, you would really treat it as someone special, right?


    But the K-O-R-E-A-N-S had a strange response to the worldwide success of BTS , BlackPink and other acts - they continued to revere a certain domesticist in the same lague with BTS.


    This strange phenomenon has very few equals in history; IU had no concerts outside of K-O-R-E-A this year.


    Now IU is not performing for the time being, the K-O-R-E-A-N-S dug Younha, who had been a dormant volcano for the last 14 years, up again and are promoting her, a phenomenon the rest of world will have a very hard time understanding.


    The sheer impossibility of world famous acts to impress the K-O-R-E-A-N ears, the absolute stubbornness of K-O-R-E-A-N-S to value the domesticts more than the international acts, and now the real possibility of an absolute regression of KPop towards its bad old, domestic, isolationist ways creates a big concern for me.


    Years of experience have only taught that it is impossible for the K-O-R-E-A-N ears to appreciate internationally famous styles of KPop. The K-O-R-E-A-N-S will always quickly revert to their old, isolationist style of music whenever they can.


    The Korean inability to differentiate between acts which are popular around the world and acts which will never really go anywhere outside of K-O-R-E-A , something I had pointed out for 10 years, is now leading for a big showdown where there is now a real possibility of Younha snagging a Grand Prize, entering KPop to the dark ages before 2007.

    BTW, one of your conquerors of the world - Jin, also went with what you call "old, regressive style of music", instead of the Kpop bop.


    Whatcha gonna do?


    Younha does pop-rock, so has Jin now.

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    Years of experience have only taught that it is impossible for the K-O-R-E-A-N ears to appreciate internationally famous styles of KPop

    Oh this statement.


    Koreans adopted the Western pop and innovated K-pop, but they don't appreciate the versions of K-pop that the West likes,


    Can't it be more ironically funny.

    But very normal.


    Curry was adopted by others including Koreans from India/Indo sphere.


    Now there might be market for Korean made curry in India, but that does not mean Indians and Koreans should have the same taste preferences or that Koreans should give up on their preference, since India is much larger market for curry.


    Koreans aren't success stans, like WhyKnock

    At least this time, it is IU who has paid filial duty.


    You've been complaining about Senior Singer and Koreans give you an even more Senior Singer, poor you.


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    At least this time, it is IU who has paid filial duty.


    You've been complaining about Senior Singer and Koreans give you an even more Senior Singer, poor you.


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    The whole bizarre relationship between Ko Younha and Lee Jieun is worth an essay of its own.


    Ko Younha invited Lee Jieun as a concert guest when the latter was a nobody, which is why Lee JIeun respected Ko Younha back then.


    But, after Good Day, Lee Jieun never really looked back, while Ko Younha's career fell into a big limbo.


    Ko Younha formed a company, and had Juniel, who was sometimes called a rival of IU in the year 2011, under the thumb for some time but Juniel eventually disappeared.


    Now Ko Younha has risen from the crypt to haunt KPop one more time. If Lee Jieun invites Ko Younha to Palette then maybe there are no hard feelings remaining, but if Ko Younha does not appear there, then they are now enemies.

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    Quote from bbgc

    BTW, one of your conquerors of the world - Jin, also went with what you call "old, regressive style of music", instead of the Kpop bop.


    Whatcha gonna do?


    Younha does pop-rock, so has Jin now.

    Jin has given up and is entering the military now so he doesn't care

    There was also reports of Younha messaging IU at odd times .. Younha revealed those messages on her SM. She got some backlash for bother IU weirdly and clout chasing?

    IU was polite as always. That was after IU hit superstardom


    Invite to Palette is not a good parameter of good terms. I totally expected Chanhyuk to promote on it for his solo release. But he did not and was wonderfully weird mocking the whole promotion culture.

    AKMU of course is on fantastic terms with IU.

    Secondly Younha's song gathering speed is actually 6 months old. Typically Palette sessions are closer to the release.

    So it is irrelevant in this case, except in your crazy parallel universe.

    I didn't read all if that lol, but isnt it the same with international fans? those whom their music is really popular domestically with koreans, arent likewise popular with int fans, ex Zico

    KPop came from the shows from France (to some degree , thru Japan) and the shows performed for American soldiers stationed in Korea (the American musicians were sent to Vietnam, so local musicians filled the gap and learned the American way of music)


    But then there is another tradition, called the Ryukoka (which means 'popular songs', a term of songs popular during the 1930s-1940s) which came from Japan, from which the trot and ballad traditions came from. That was the tradition the K-O-R-E-A-N-S traditionally liked, despite of its later amalgamation with American style of music.


    In other words, the balladist tradition, which IU is probably the last of them, was not exactly part of Western music. It was actually Japanese - I need a separate essay to describe the subtleties.


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    Korean curry is actually a bastardization of Japanese curry, which has nothing to do with what it is eaten in India. It is a Japanese adaptation of the curry they had in Britain, modified to suit Japanese short grain rice (Korean rice comes from Japanese rice, although Koreans try to deny it.) A refugee from India, a Rash Behari Bose, married into a Japanese restaurant family and developed Japanese style curry - his son Bharatchandra (called 'Masahide' by the Japanese) was killed during the Battle of Okinawa (on Japanese side, of course), meaning the xenophobic Japanese treated him Japanese enough to draft his son into the Japanese Army.

    All curry - effectively tracks back to India, whatever be the route taken.


    Similary, Music is in an continuum, but the definition of it as a genre comes from US/UK in the 1940s and therefore to Korea during WWII and Korean War.


    In any case however it reached anyone - nobody is obliged to conform their tastes to other peoples or the most internationally popular version.

    Monoculture is the death of any culture.

    Diversity is the necessary for anything to survive.

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    I'm kinda seething at Younha right now, ngl. I'm fixin to put her in the same league as the musty male trottists, balladeers and "rappers" that constantly jam up the charts with their boring generic tunes. Blocking REAL songs and/or REAL acts from reaching the top of the charts.

    REAL.. LMFAO... who made you the judge of what is REAL or not? get REAL, willya?

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    IMO the only real challenger to IU in SK is Yoo Jae Suk. I have a feeling YJS would win if he ever directly challenged her.

    I would like to see that.. but none of YJS projects were close in time to IU's releases.


    Even so, I still will bet on IU.


    An album like 'Pieces', probably her most unpromoted, all ballad, no MV release, still charted well against SMTM releases in Jan 2022 and songs are in contention for year end awards.

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