The Album outsold Born Pink in the US

Where’s the growth? And don’t come and cry about shipping….

Anons trying to cope with the #1 lol

Blackpink always wins at the end of the day

No one cares about album sales. Look at the streaming charts, Blackpink is fixing overtake BTS at some point.

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Anons trying to cope with the #1 lol

Blackpink always wins at the end of the day

after all those desperate discounts and payola it would’ve been utter embarrassment and failure if they still failed to grab the number 1 lmfao this isn’t the flex y’all think it is

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Anons trying to cope with the #1 lol

Blackpink always wins at the end of the day

Not copping. Everyone knew they were gonna debut at 1 after the desperate moves from yg. I’m just confused with the numbers. Why born pink did less than the album? Not even with 17 oficial versions did they surpass it

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No one cares about album sales. Look at the streaming charts, Blackpink is fixing overtake BTS at some point.

They’ll have to match their 2018 US album streams first.

LSG and HYLT debuted with over 30 spots of difference, SD and PV are having a 3 spots difference, there is growing, its just that you don't see it

To the person claiming BP is somehow rivaling BTS US album streams — before you even mention another artist, maybe sit on the fact Born streamed LESS than The Album on US Spotify despite the deal.

It's sad to flop so hard with 50 album versions

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LSG and HYLT debuted with over 30 spots of difference, SD and PV are having a 3 spots difference, there is growing, its just that you don't see it

Sd is aiming at #40 iirc

The physical album is more expensive for BP but they make it with streama even those wack ass rfl is there

If u want that people gotta listen to your music, not just buy the album then throw it around to collect dust

So even BB confirmed those 17 versions.

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Billboard article feels like shade, almost surprising. I’m curious what Ben Shapiro of the NYT will say. He’s known to go harsh on kpop and fan-driven tactics (even Taylor).

Ben Sisario*** help

Unfortunately due to YG shady tactics

37.4 million demand streams I would not worry about BP in the US I would worry about my favs streams match the sales like them hahaha. And what if YG starts shipping the albums next week? It means BP charts for another week.

lol imagine caring about this

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Sd is aiming at #40 iirc

Nope, charts essentials, talk of charts and winston all have it inside the top 30/25 for their final predictions.

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So even BB confirmed those 17 versions.

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Same amount as twice, yet only one managed to debut 2 songs in the hot 100 and get over 10m of streaming

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37.4 million demand streams I would not worry about BP in the US I would worry about my favs streams match the sales like them hahaha. And what if YG starts shipping the albums next week? It means BP charts for another week.

I mean, I would HOPE they don’t only chart one week. That would be extreme. Or did you mean #1 again? LOL

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Nope, charts essentials, talk of charts and winston all have it inside the top 30/25 for their final predictions.

Same amount as twice, yet only one managed to debut 2 songs in the hot 100 and get over 10m of streaming

and yet both are playing the same venues

Can somebody, please, explain why blinks still crying about some "shipping problem" when their fave's album is easily available in Target aka the easiest way for local US fans to get their copy

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NOT it being outside of the Top10

Album may have been sold for 3.99 but still, people said NO and didn't buy...

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Can somebody, please, explain why blinks still crying about some "shipping problem" when their fave's album is easily available in Target aka the easiest way for local US fans to get their copy

i was wondering the same and apparently they mean ktown4u which Western fans don’t usually order from (bc they understand it’s obsolete for any official charts). but even accounting for whatever percentage of fans from any fandom would order from this site (a minority), it doesn’t change the bigger chart story. if BP was going to sell 150k+, they would have. this is where they’re at.

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To the person claiming BP is somehow rivaling BTS US album streams — before you even mention another artist, maybe sit on the fact Born streamed LESS than The Album on US Spotify despite the deal.

BP isn't that far behind BTS anymore in the US when it comes to streams. Most of BTS' advantage comes from mass fandom buying.

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and yet both are playing the same venues

And only one gets invited to actual awards and have done these venues since 2019 so

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BP isn't that far behind BTS anymore in the US when it comes to streams. Most of BTS' advantage comes from mass fandom buying.

now compare their studio album streams instead of an anthology with tons of old songs that aren’t going to stream as high as new songs — in this regard they still can’t compete with 2018 Tear. and again, BP actually decreased in US Spotify streams.

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And only one gets invited to actual awards and have done these venues since 2019 so

the VMAs being their first ever. let us know when they’re attending the Big 3, let alone being nominated for or winning anything. that’s BTS and BTS alone.

but back to girl groups. once again you’re missing the point that this group that you see is almost as big as BTS at the end of the day is much closer in comparison to Twice USA-wise — same sales essentially, same concert venues, both popular girl groups within a niche without a hit anyone in the US could identify. the difference is Twice has received almost no real US push or playlisting, so imagine when they do? and i’m not even a Once. i’m just seeing the difference between untapped potential and fading hype.

Tbh it just feels like they pretty much peaked or at the latest years reached some plateau. Their numbers this cb although obviously good since they are BP at the same time not that much better and with no big gap comparing to previous one (except for physical albums sales) plus for spotify we should consider that their previous cb wasn't as pushed as this one so it can be even a situation where without the massive deals numbers would be pretty much on par. Youtube also doesn't have basically any gap in comparison to previous cb, right? And in US they were a niche just like every other kpop act (aside from BTS), their only difference with other kpop groups was very beautiful MVs and that they do "badass hip-hop" which is favored in the west so can attract casual listeners.

Btw, hope now blinks understand why YG didn't book any stadiums for the group and went for arenas used by other kpop groups, company just knows the demand better than fans no matter how loud fans are)

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i was wondering the same and apparently they mean ktown4u which Western fans don’t usually order from (bc they understand it’s obsolete for any official charts). but even accounting for whatever percentage of fans from any fandom would order from this site (a minority), it doesn’t change the bigger chart story. if BP was going to sell 150k+, they would have. this is where they’re at.

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Tbh it just feels like they pretty much peaked or at the latest years reached some plateau. Their numbers this cb although obviously good since they are BP at the same time not that much better and with no big gap comparing to previous one (except for physical albums sales) plus for spotify we should consider that their previous cb wasn't as pushed as this one so it can be even a situation where without the massive deals numbers would be pretty much on par. Youtube also doesn't have basically any gap in comparison to previous cb, right? And in US they were a niche just like every other kpop act (aside from BTS), their only difference with other kpop groups was very beautiful MVs and that they do "badass hip-hop" which is favored in the west so can attract casual listeners.

Btw, hope now blinks understand why YG didn't book any stadiums for the group and went for arenas used by other kpop groups, company just knows the demand better than fans no matter how loud fans are)

What push?

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No one cares about album sales. Look at the streaming charts, Blackpink is fixing overtake BTS at some point.

Born Pink did less streams in the US than THE ALBUM though

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BP isn't that far behind BTS anymore in the US when it comes to streams. Most of BTS' advantage comes from mass fandom buying.

2018 BTS outdid (mind you Fake Love went Top 10 on the Hot 100 when BTS got their first #1)

To the person mentioning streaming units...

2 things

THE ALBUM got more than Born Pink for BP themselves and that's with the same number of songs

2nd. bringing up BTS's... they did almost 50M streams in 2020 with 7 songs for BE where the title track got sh*t playlisting. but sure try to compare when even Tear has more debut streams than any other kpop album

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and yet both are playing the same venues

And twice did sell out their venue and had to do more shows. BP still has a shit load of tickets available

The growth is that they are now 2 million sellers, whereas before they were 1 million sellers.

And now someone will come along and tell me Twice outsold when Itzy just became JYP's first million seller...

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2018 BTS outdid (mind you Fake Love went Top 10 on the Hot 100 when BTS got their first #1)

You're reaching for 2018? Army fans getting real desperate here. What matters is the here and now. BTS has fallen to 52M and BP has hit 37M in a 2022 battle. BTS big leads are due to mass fandom buying.

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You're reaching for 2018? Army fans getting real desperate here. What matters is the here and now. BTS has fallen to 52M and BP has hit 37M in a 2022 battle. BTS big leads are due to mass fandom buying.

... Proof only had 4 new songs on it (amount of NEW songs matter as new songs will always get more streams than older songs)... y'all forget BE did almost 50M with 7 songs...and y'all think a NEW album wouldn't do more... y'all can keep thinking what you want when BP literally decreased in streams despite a 2 year hiatus and a spotify deal

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And twice did sell out their venue and had to do more shows. BP still has a shit load of tickets available

Actually BP did sold out, the resellers buys the tickets, which is exactly the type of sold out that Twice did.

the fact there are other groups that their overseas sales are included on billboard

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No one cares about album sales. Look at the streaming charts, Blackpink is fixing overtake BTS at some point.

Coming for 2018 BTS you mean?